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Here is a simple answer: who cares but you. Clearly, you are so high on what Collinite does you will continue ask questions like this to show everyone here how much you know about detailing which is not much.Please I have no real interest to descend into a insult exchange with you, so go do your own post on the wonders of Collinite. It seems strange how people on forums complain I ruin their posts, but guys like you have no problem doing it to mine .
I think you are doing a nice job of ruining it yourself.
I'm not sure why you have such a fascination with my profession and my use of Collinite #915 but I have no problem with continuing to focus on your "method" of detailing if you insist. I also love how you continue to insult others here and continue to claim to be the victim of all the insults.

So please tell us more about how smearing (by hand) a car with your proprietary earth/clay with well water and how removing it dry or sometimes wet (please correct me if I read this wrong...I'm kidding cause I know you will anyway) does not introduce an entire new set of concerns to the finish?
Now for the challenge, can you do it without a condescending tone or insults?
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Old 02-17-2014, 09:56 AM
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:15 AM
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What is detailing?


Honestly, that is a great question.


If you go ask people what a car detailer does you will more than likely get many answers. Why? Well to most people, detailing, is just your car applied with products bought at Kmart, or the guy at the local car wash who does wax jobs by way of coupons.

Where I live, there ,are probably more mobile detailers working than in most big cities. When I started in 1992 working full time as a detailerfew knew what mobile detailing was at the time. There was no UTube,or internet either to learn from.

It has taken me many years, and hours of actual first hand work experience to learn my skills on doing more than just correcting swirl mark problems on cars that sit in a garage most of the time.

Most of these detailers have no idea how to do anything else. They are lost when it comes to detailing boats , aircraft , or tractor trucks which I have all done.

So, you ask what is detailing? Well, IMO, it is all about protecting whatever vehicle finish is important to you. Correction does not do that at all. Considering most detailers cannot accept,or do not care that wax offers no real protection against anything, but then constantly say what they use offers protection which is not true.


What most detailers call skill, I call a parlor trick you would see on a side show. Slapping coats of glazes, polishes ,and wax like makeup on a women face covering up flaws for awhile. Sure it looks awesome for a while but after a couple of washes thou?????

What detailing should be is about preserving the clear coat starting day one, and not with this silly ever changing complex influx of recycled waxes poly waxes, shampoos, polishes, compounds, and polishers that do the exact opposite things.


Here is a brown 89 cavalier I bought new, and this car 10 years later just before I sold it. It was never in a garage, and never waxed or corrected.One coat of the product I use each year, and washing the car with Dawn.

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Old 02-17-2014, 10:19 AM
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Exactly what is sooooooo great about it? Please share? Pictures of bottles really do not impress me much.
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:26 AM
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Exactly what is sooooooo great about it? Please share? Pictures of bottles really do not impress me much.
Looks pretty clean and protected to me.
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I think you are doing a nice job of ruining it yourself.
I also love how you continue to insult others here and continue to claim to be the victim of all the insults. but I have no problem with continuing to focus on your "method" of detailing if you insist. I also love how you continue to insult others here and continue to claim to be the victim of all the insults.

So please tell us more about how smearing (by hand) a car with your proprietary earth/clay with well water and how removing it dry or sometimes wet (please correct me if I read this wrong...I'm kidding cause I know you will anyway) does not introduce an entire new set of concerns to the finish?
Now for the challenge, can you do it without a condescending tone or insults?
I find it strange how you say this:

I also love how you continue to insult others here and continue to claim to be the victim of all the insults.

I do not believe I called any one here a idiot, knucklehead, or simple minded. I may have called people wax zealots, or closet detailers, but those are not insults but just observations of reactions to people comments.



So please tell us more about how smearing (by hand) a car with your proprietary earth/clay with well water and how removing it dry or sometimes wet (please correct me if I read this wrong...I'm kidding cause I know you will anyway) does not introduce an entire new set of concerns to the finish?

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First, well water has nothing to do with anything here, nor do I remove it dry. It works much the way a clay bar works, but use the water to remove the earth and clay to lubricate the surface of the clear.I use this method when a finish feels gritty.
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Looks pretty clean and protected to me.

Really?

Another picture of a freshly waxed vehicle. Protected? What makes you think that exactly? The shine?
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Old 02-17-2014, 10:51 AM
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Really? Another picture of a freshly waxed vehicle. Protected? What makes you think that exactly? The shine?
Funny you should say that. That is after washing it at a coin op using 3 buckets, AFTER a 3,000 mile trip back home. No wax was applied. Just shampoo and water and a Wookies Fist.

Because I applied some Collinite #845 on it before heading on the trip, all the road grime, salt, snow, dirt, dust and crap all came off with ease. So, in theory, the wax did it's job in keeping the road grime out of my paint and preventing scratches and etchings.

How can you argue this?
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Sorry you guys here have to be subjected to this!

Unfortunately, I've seen this happen on a handful of other forums I spend time on. It's an endless, uphill battle for all of the members here.
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Funny you should say that. That is after washing it at a coin op using 3 buckets, AFTER a 3,000 mile trip back home. No wax was applied. Just shampoo and water and a Wookies Fist.

Because I applied some Collinite #845 on it before heading on the trip, all the road grime, salt, snow, dirt, dust and crap all came off with ease. So, in theory, the wax did it's job in keeping the road grime out of my paint and preventing scratches and etchings.

How can you argue this?

Well, let me say this first. I could take a brand new jeep and go on a 3,000 mile road trip like yours with no wax and do exactly the very same thing.Why is that? First, let's look at what Collinite wax is: A carnuba wax with a polymer that does nothing more than allow the wax to with stand higher heats before melting, or more washing before breaking down. Now IMO this does nothing for long term protection without constant reapplications.

At some time your Jeep will need correction, but my method does not. Your wax makes claims it protects against UV, bugs, and other nasty things, but shine and beading are in no indicator whether your wax will be providing total protection given your comment you washed your jeep right after your trip.
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Sorry you guys here have to be subjected to this!

Unfortunately, I've seen this happen on a handful of other forums I spend time on. It's an endless, uphill battle for all of the members here.

Excuse me Nick. Really your bias is showing much like your fellow shill Dylan.


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Hey Nick

Here is a question for you guys @ Adams

Your logo states: Discover Your Shine Potential, but what can your company offer in terms of Protection Potential? Care to share, or just attack me?
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Excuse me Nick. Really your bias is showing much like your fellow shill Dylan.
It's not covert if their name is, nick@adams.

Now if it were "nicklovesjeeps" and all he did was promote adams polishes, I would understand.

He may or may not be getting paid for it. But he is trying to expand a company. I'm sure you have done the same thing if you have been detailing since '92
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