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No, a coating is not a sealant. Opti-Coat is not a wax or sealant like other products on the market. It is a ceramic clear coating very similar to factory type clear coats. A layer of Opti-Coat measures approx. 2 microns in thickness, or about 100 times thicker than your typical wax or sealant. Unlike paint protection sealants such as PTFE, Nano Sealants, GlassPlexin that degrade over time and are easily removed through washing with water or chemicals, Opti-Coat does not degrade and cannot be removed by chemicals such as heavy duty truck wash or even caustic degreasers. It is totally resistant to these chemicals and produces a permanent film that is chemically bonded with the factory paint layers. Opti-Coat is effectively the vehicles new outer clear coat. Do you think Dawn will remove this?
I thought the permanent opti coat was only available to people who have been properly trained by them on how to apply it? I know others are available but I didn't think they were permanent?
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Maybe we can close this endless circle out on a lighter note....
Can anybody tell me what those little yellowish 1/8 " spots are that get on my car all the time? I've heard they are Bee crap, but I'd like to know definitively. I also have a white 325i and they do stain a little!
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Maybe we can close this endless circle out on a lighter note....
Can anybody tell me what those little yellowish 1/8 " spots are that get on my car all the time? I've heard they are Bee crap, but I'd like to know definitively. I also have a white 325i and they do stain a little!
You have tried clay?
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Maybe we can close this endless circle out on a lighter note....
Can anybody tell me what those little yellowish 1/8 " spots are that get on my car all the time? I've heard they are Bee crap, but I'd like to know definitively. I also have a white 325i and they do stain a little!

If you are located where trees are, it may be tree sap. Pine trees can dump sap and leave small spots.
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I thought the permanent opti coat was only available to people who have been properly trained by them on how to apply it? I know others are available but I didn't think they were permanent?

It used to be, but they now have a retail version anyone can buy.
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You have tried clay?
These spots usually come off with soap &water, but if they are allowed to sit for any length of time I can "clay them off or use a little dab of PoliSeal on a MF towel. I
They are not from trees, as they appear regardless of where I park. I know other people have seen them here (SoCal) but I do not know if it's a local phenomenon.
I'll get a photo.
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If you are located where trees are, it may be tree sap. Pine trees can dump sap and leave small spots.
Not sap... they show up regardless of where I park.
Sidenote: I used to live in Florida. There are trees there called Sugar Pines. When you park under one of those trees, you will never, ever do it again. Sap takes on a whole new meaning with those trees...Big, Fat, Gobs of the stuff...and not easy to remove either. If you let it harden in that hot Florida Sunshine, you have to be very careful in removing it... It'll take the paint right off with it.

I also saw your video of your friend's SUV and it reminded me of one time I washed my car on the empty lot next door. The water must have flooded a fire ant colony, and I never felt them crawling up my feet into my socks an then into my shorts when they all decided to attack and start biting. AN EXPERIENCE I'LL NEVER EVER FORGET.
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I'm pro wax, and I'm proud!
(Hand up). Pro-wax. I love the stuff. I think the smell takes me back to my youth. I had the best looking Pacer back in the day and I owe it all to turtle wax. Sometimes I just open the can and smell it and I have some OLD stuff that I just can't throw away.

I also like to take one one of those big cans of Pledge and go to town with it. Not only will it make the water bead, it smells good for a day or so.
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(Hand up). Pro-wax. I love the stuff. I think the smell takes me back to my youth. I had the best looking Pacer back in the day and I owe it all to turtle wax. Sometimes I just open the can and smell it and I have some OLD stuff that I just can't throw away.

I also like to take one one of those big cans of Pledge and go to town with it. Not only will it make the water bead, it smells good for a day or so.
You know if you mix the Pledge and Windex together you can do the windows too!
This saves time and money...well, time anyway
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Re: Realistic Detailing

I dunno why I thought that this thread was going to help me figure out what was the best way to take care of my new to me, JGC Overland 2009 which is apparently in desperate need of a good detailing judging by some of the pictures I've seen on the site as well as the last 2 weeks of snow.

There's so much back and forth going on here that I just took it to the local car wash and sprayed it down and hoped for the best. I guess one thing I figured out was not to take it through one of those drive through rotatary brush 0 matics.

However, I've been looking at various videos to see the proceedure and I am physically unable to do the labor required unless I want to spend a week or more flat on my back or more.

So I guess what I really need is someone(s) who are knowledgeable, to offer me suggestions on what to look for in someone that can do what is needed, properly, and at a reasonable cost. And what frequency should all this be done.

And NO I don't want this to devolve anymore than it already has, if that's possible.
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No, a coating is not a sealant.

Opti-Coat is not a wax or sealant like other products on the market. It is a ceramic clear coating very similar to factory type clear coats. A layer of Opti-Coat measures approx. 2 microns in thickness, or about 100 times thicker than your typical wax or sealant. Unlike paint protection sealants such as PTFE, Nano Sealants, GlassPlexin that degrade over time and are easily removed through washing with water or chemicals, Opti-Coat does not degrade and cannot be removed by chemicals such as heavy duty truck wash or even caustic degreasers. It is totally resistant to these chemicals and produces a permanent film that is chemically bonded with the factory paint layers. Opti-Coat is effectively the vehicles new outer clear coat.


Do you think Dawn will remove this?

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I dunno why I thought that this thread was going to help me figure out what was the best way to take care of my new to me, JGC Overland 2009 which is apparently in desperate need of a good detailing judging by some of the pictures I've seen on the site as well as the last 2 weeks of snow.

There's so much back and forth going on here that I just took it to the local car wash and sprayed it down and hoped for the best. I guess one thing I figured out was not to take it through one of those drive through rotatary brush 0 matics.

However, I've been looking at various videos to see the proceedure and I am physically unable to do the labor required unless I want to spend a week or more flat on my back or more.

So I guess what I really need is someone(s) who are knowledgeable, to offer me suggestions on what to look for in someone that can do what is needed, properly, and at a reasonable cost. And what frequency should all this be done.

And NO I don't want this to devolve anymore than it already has, if that's possible.
I am sorry for your confusion, but maybe this will help you out. A 2009 is not new, so first you need to consider one thing IMO. What scratches and defects can be actually be removed, and what things cannot without affecting the clear coat clarity.Then you have to determine what is a reasonable cost is for you. Also, you mention you cannot, or do not want to do the work yourself.

Well if you have read anything I have said here it should be apparent that using wax, or a poly sealant will do nothing but offer a temp shine, and a layer of grease that traps bad things into it. Which means at some time you will need correction which is not cheap, and there is no guarantee that a detailer will not hack your JEEP either.


My advice here is put something like Opti Coat on it, and not worry about it. It is permanent, offers real full time protection, and requires simple washing and drying to clean, and a spray detailer can be used to add some shine.


here is a write up for a Jeep using Opti Coat:

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