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Old 10-25-2016, 11:14 AM
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Re: Swirl Marks Help

Holograms are NOT acceptable in my book. Rookie ass mistakes. If you pay to have a detail done, and see Holograms in the sun, demand your money back. It would never fly in my old shop or work place. If you DO find them, the detailer didn't do a good enough job polishing the wool pad marks off. On our 4 step, we would do a compound cut with a yellow wool pad, wipe down, black pad and med cut polish, wipe down. then blue foam padding and fine cut polish to finish it off and wipe down. Then if you feel up to it, apply shine master sealant with a da sander or polisher with a soft black pad. Do 1 panel at a time, wipe with new mf cloth.

I've done 1mill restorations, 80k paint jobs, repairs on certain transformers movie set cars (bumble bee to be specific), to general repairs. My main job was flat sanding, paint prep, primer shoots, body repair. And dabbled a little in painting, tri-coats, metallics, pearls, ect. From 2009-2012 most all gm Auto show cars, concepts, preproduction, movie set vehicles, ect came from our shop

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Old 10-25-2016, 11:35 AM
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I know nothing about deatiling so I appreciate the help being provided in this threat. Can these holograms be a bad application of the wax the detailer was using? It kind of looks like residue when you look at the side panels at an angle in the sun and will eventually dissipate?

The shop the messed up doing the detailing and scratch my hood said they will cut me a check for the repair. The guy that will do the repair (a different shop) told me the holograms could have come like that from the dealer. I took delivery of the car when it was dark so I never really noticed anything. Granted, as I said even now for someone like me who knows nothing about paint, I would have assumed this was just the way the paint is. This is the same reason the wife doesn't want me to pay out of packet for the whole car because she can't see any "scratches" on the sides lol.

Now although the original shop said they will pay for the repair, I am having a hard time believing they would be willing to pay $800 for the whole car to be done vs just $300 for the hood with the noticeable scratches.
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Old 10-25-2016, 11:40 AM
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Holograms are wheel marks. The 2nd step after compounding removes the wheel marks (holograms), and the 3rd step removes any 2nd step marks and puts a nice end result finish on the paint. The 4th step puts a paint sealant over the Polish to seal everything in for lasting results.

When I do a outside remediation only, (I'll make your paint look brand new when I'm done), it's a minimum 350.00 pricing. Interiors run 250. Both for 525. It's an 8rh+job.
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Old 10-25-2016, 11:58 AM
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See $350 for the whole outside of the car is something I would be more willing to pay vs $800. I figure I will wait until after the winter to do the whole car again and maybe get the opticoat done as well.
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Old 10-25-2016, 12:01 PM
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I'd deffinately wait until.spring to have the shop fix the other shop mistake.

Also, I used to work in a dealership as well, never and I mean NEVER allow them.to wash your car. They either run it thru their automated car wash, or their second depth guys brush wash or wash with dirty ass wash mits. This will deffinately put fine scratches in your paint. Shit,, just washing your car can do this as well.
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Old 10-25-2016, 12:20 PM
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Re: Swirl Marks Help

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I made the mistake of taking my brand new Jeep to get detailed by a detail shop that did a piss poor job on it.

Upon further inspection when I got back home I noticed some swirl marks in the hood (see pictures). One of them seems to be more like a scratch. I know nothing about detailing and my wife is very upset about these scratches.

Can they be removed? if so, how? is this something I would be able to do? should I find a different detailer? I appreciate your help.

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you can buy some color matching wax on amazon this will help if they took it through any car washes with plastic brushes cloth you will have some marks
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Old 11-07-2016, 04:54 AM
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Based on your pictures and description above I'm going to take a guess that they used a long handled scrub brush dipped in a bucket of suds to wash your vehicle. That's why I won't use any of the detailers around here.
I'm guessing you have about a 98% chance of being right on this. Which is why I never take my vehicles to a car wash or a "detailer". It's probably the same brush he used on the guy before him who attended, "Mud Fest 2016" with his 4-WD. I put the word "detailer" in quotations, because anyone with a bucket and a sponge can call themselves that. Just as anyone with a $30 pair of Harbor Freight electric clippers can call themselves a "pet groomer".

I'm not trying to insult the profession. I know there are very good detailers out there. Just as there are very good car mechanics, lawyers, and pet groomers. The problem is the risk we all have to take trying to find them. A person pays what amounts to tens of thousands of dollars for a vehicle. Then is forced to pay additional money to in fact gamble it's condition on a person they know absolutely nothing about...... Except they paid $80.00 @ thousand for nice looking, glossy business cards.

For me this has become a 2 edged sword. While I hope I live long enough to where I won't be physically able to wash, wax, and detail 2 full sized vehicles any longer.... At the same time I cringe at the thought of rolling the dice of trusting the condition of both of them to someone I know nothing about. And may in fact be handing over money to create problems where none existed. Trading the removal of a light coat of dirt for paint scratches unfortunately is one of them.
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