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The Great Drying Towel Debate

A $25 dollar towel to dry my vehicle. My first question would be why would I need that expensive of a towel to dry my car in the first place. Well, lets look at this towel for example:

Adam's Great White Drying Microfiber


They say:

Adam's Great White Drying Towel is the softest, most absorbent microfiber drying towel you've ever used... Guaranteed!

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The Adam's Great White Drying Towel is guaranteed not to create swirl marks.

So let me see if I got this right. The Adam's Great White Drying Towel is guaranteed not to create swirl marks, so I have to spend $25 for one towel to be absolutely sure I will not have swirl marks after washing my vehicle after having Adams waxes applied.


If a product like Opti Coat was used instead of wax any towel could be used without the worry of swirl marks. Special shampoos, towels, and wash mitts would not be needed, but since many here have money to burn then who am I to tell anyone how to spend their money, but just offer some advice which people can take or not.
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:57 AM
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Hey Idealistic ThreadStealer, rather than a taste of your own medicine how about you just stuff a sock in it. Adam's has proven that unlike you and your miracle "protectant" he remains FLAME retardant and reputable.

Don't bother to respond. I and I'm sure many many others just plan to ignore and block you at this point. Have an "Opti" day!
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Hey Idealistic ThreadStealer, rather than a taste of your own medicine how about you just stuff a sock in it. Adam's has proven that unlike you and your miracle "protectant" he remains FLAME retardant and reputable.

Don't bother to respond. I and I'm sure many many others just plan to ignore and block you at this point. Have an "Opti" day!
The man has a right to defend his position.

But so often the reason one has to constantly defend a position is that it is really indefensible.

Good advice doesn't need to be constantly repeated. Good advice will spread exponentially through word of mouth. It doesn't need the unwelcome town crier on a soap box.


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Hey Idealistic ThreadStealer, rather than a taste of your own medicine how about you just stuff a sock in it. Adam's has proven that unlike you and your miracle "protectant" he remains FLAME retardant and reputable.

Don't bother to respond. I and I'm sure many many others just plan to ignore and block you at this point. Have an "Opti" day!

It is hard to respond to comments to that are petty and make no sense.
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The man has a right to defend his position.

But so often the reason one has to constantly defend a position is that it is really indefensible.

Good advice doesn't need to be constantly repeated. Good advice will spread exponentially through word of mouth. It doesn't need the unwelcome town crier on a soap box.


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Really, you are funny with your high and mighty comment here. What many like you here think I am defending my position, but it is quite the opposite. It is people such as yourself who are the ones the repeat this constant correction propaganda to the point of nausea. If preventing swirls marks and correction that is cost effective is unwelcome in your opinion. Then you are in the minority from the rest the people who own cars, and do not suffer from shiny object syndrome.
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Re: The Great Drying Towel Debate

I think many here should consider what detailing is, and what detailers offer.

Here is an article called:

The Professional Detailer:
"What is Detailing, Anyway?"


http://www.automotivedetailing.com/a..._detailing.htm

Quote from article:


The definition that I propose here is the one I use on a day-to-day basis and helps me answer the nearly daily customer inquiry, "What is detailing, anyway?" It goes like this: Detailing can be defined as the systematic rejuvenation and protection of the various surfaces of a vehicle



Unfortunately, everyone focuses on the rejuvenation part, and few if any offer anything in the way of protection but lip service.
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Really, you are funny with your high and mighty comment here. What many like you here think I am defending my position, but it is quite the opposite. It is people such as yourself who are the ones the repeat this constant correction propaganda to the point of nausea. If preventing swirls marks and correction that is cost effective is unwelcome in your opinion. Then you are in the minority from the rest the people who own cars, and do not suffer from shiny object syndrome.

I just wonder if you ever step back, look in the mirror, and ask yourself why you get such a negative reception where ever you go?

You said you came here to give advice and you did that. So a lot of people say they disagree with you. Accept that whether you are right or wrong, for some reason your message is not well received. Maybe it isn't the message, but the messenger.


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I just wonder if you ever step back, look in the mirror, and ask yourself why you get such a negative reception where ever you go?

You said you came here to give advice and you did that. So a lot of people say they disagree with you. Accept that whether you are right or wrong, for some reason your message is not well received. Maybe it isn't the message, but the messenger.


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No, I disagree with you completely.It is completely about the message.
See many here cannot see is what this picture has to do with correction detailing.



What you see here is what makeup can do for a women, and when she removes it nothing has changed. Basically, correction detailing does the very same thing, but as more defects happen from no protection it requires more makeup( wax and glazes) to maintain that look.
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go away troll.

you're not needed here/
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go away troll.

you're not needed here/

I beg to differ. Someone should be here to bring sanity to this forum.This ridiculous discussion on who has the best towel to remove wax is just funny. $25 for a towel to remove wax, and I am not needed here.

By the way, you should look up what a troll is before calling someone one.

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One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.

It clearly seems you are the troll here because your remark is designed to start a argument, with no facts or substance beyond giving me the finger.
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actually Mr. Realistic detailer...its called optiGuard and can ONLY be purchased and applied by authorized dealers. IT IS scratch resistant.....which means it can be scratched, swirled, marred, hologrammed etc. My point being...you cant use any towel...any soap...any anything as it is NOT bullet proof as you say.

Opti-coat 2.0 can be purchased by anyone. BUT.....its not recommened it be applied by just anyone. Just like optiguard it takes a lot of experience to get it to "level out" Unlevel spots are VERY apparent and have to be polished/corrected out. Also...the paint that either of the opti products is to be applied to needs to be perfect in all ways. No scratches, marring, holograms etc. Otherwise they are there until the Opti products is either polished or sanded out. That's right....it has to be removed.
I think a lot of people here see what your saying with your unending public bashing of the worlds detailing practices by telling us incessantly how stupid ALL of us are for using certain products. But either of the Opti products are not for the average detailer...or even pro detailer.
My point is...your enot being clear here about what has to be done to a vehicle before using opti products, who can use opti products and what effects these products can have if applied wrong. They are NOT the end all to be all as YOU make them out to be. So please...END your constant preaching, bitching, moaning, complaining and childish name calling OR YOU sir are done here. Put your VAST knowledge to work here and do an instructional video on how to use the products you love! Do some how to's, do something besides coming here EVERYDAY and talking to us LIKE children with your constant badgering. Stop your preaching....and show us HOW ITS DONE!!! Put your money where your mouth is...so to say. Ball is in your court. Im giving you the benefit of the doubt here.
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actually Mr. Realistic detailer...its called optiGuard and can ONLY be purchased and applied by authorized dealers. IT IS scratch resistant.....which means it can be scratched, swirled, marred, hologrammed etc. My point being...you cant use any towel...any soap...any anything as it is NOT bullet proof as you say.

Opti-coat 2.0 can be purchased by anyone. BUT.....its not recommened it be applied by just anyone. Just like optiguard it takes a lot of experience to get it to "level out" Unlevel spots are VERY apparent and have to be polished/corrected out. Also...the paint that either of the opti products is to be applied to needs to be perfect in all ways. No scratches, marring, holograms etc. Otherwise they are there until the Opti products is either polished or sanded out. That's right....it has to be removed.
I think a lot of people here see what your saying with your unending public bashing of the worlds detailing practices by telling us incessantly how stupid ALL of us are for using certain products. But either of the Opti products are not for the average detailer...or even pro detailer.
My point is...your enot being clear here about what has to be done to a vehicle before using opti products, who can use opti products and what effects these products can have if applied wrong. They are NOT the end all to be all as YOU make them out to be. So please...END your constant preaching, bitching, moaning, complaining and childish name calling OR YOU sir are done here. Put your VAST knowledge to work here and do an instructional video on how to use the products you love! Do some how to's, do something besides coming here EVERYDAY and talking to us LIKE children with your constant badgering. Stop your preaching....and show us HOW ITS DONE!!! Put your money where your mouth is...so to say. Ball is in your court. Im giving you the benefit of the doubt here.

OK, that is totally fair. Let me see what I can come up with.
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