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Re: When to first wax?

clay bar is only something you do if you can feel debris on the vehicle paint after a wash. (e.g., run the old fingernail across the paint and see if it's totally smooth or feels choppy) it is not something you do for the sake of doing, IMO. i would be very surprised if a little rail rust would not wash right off the vechile. the paint is brand new so unless your vehicle got really screwed up on the rail car claying is not necessary. by all means though do it if it needs to be done...
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:31 AM
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Shouldn't the dealer have already clay barred and detailed at delivery?
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Re: When to first wax?

Claybar isn't as difficult as some make it out to be and the results are stunning if you have never done it. A simple swipe of your hand over a clayed section will be all you need to understand it's value. Doing it as part of washing is the easiest but you still need to make sure you use a quality lubricant, I use Wolfgang products from www.autogeek.net, they have a great kit that makes it much easier to do the job right the first time.

I have also been a Zanno bigot for well over a decade but have recently found that the newer products like NXT and Turtle Wax ICE are damn near as good, have a longer shelf life and in general provide a great level of protection and shine for the effort and price. In fact, ICE has proven to work better on my black vehicles than Zanno in both application and performance. IMHO Zanno has it's place but it's overkill for a daily driver. I still use it on my Porsche (simple because it is slightly better and I "show" that car more often) but have switched to ICE for my daily drivers.

To the original point, by the time you get the truck the paint is completely cured and any urban legends about waiting any longer, not going through car washes, etc. are just that, urban legends. Remember, body shops perform a final cut polish and seal as the last step in a finish / re-finish, why would you think a production paint job would require more care?
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Re: When to first wax?

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Shouldn't the dealer have already clay barred and detailed at delivery?
I doubt most dealers know what "claybar" means LOL
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Re: When to first wax?

I've never used a sealer....nor have I ever waxed a vehicle myself (I think maybe once to an old vehicle when I was 17 maybe). Lame I know. But I now live in a condo building so the do it yourself isn't really an option (the trade off is I am on the beach). I like the sealant advice which I will do at some detailer place...there are a ton here in South Florida. For $20+tip for an SUV there is a place up the street that does a great hand carwash and inside cleaning....can't beat that...they do a lot of more expensive cars there all the time...mostly BMW, MB, Bentley, some RR's, and sports cars so I hope they know what they are doing when it comes to sealant and wax...will quizz them. Thanks...
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Re: When to first wax?

I have always used Crystal-Glo products with amazing results time after time.

http://www.crystal-glo.com/can/auto/
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Re: When to first wax?

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Shouldn't the dealer have already clay barred and detailed at delivery?
Hah, these days I think your lucky if they do much of anything other than rip the plastic out of the car. It would really surprise me if a dealership actually waxed a car.
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Re: When to first wax?

I also have found Meguiars NXT and Turtle Wax Ice to be the 2 easiest waxes to use on my cars. Just used the Turtle Wax Ice on my one month old Overland and it looks fabulous. Easy on and off with no white residue as long as you use a good microfiber towel to buff.
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Re: When to first wax?

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fine to seal right away.

you should seal first and wax over that. sealant is much better for new factory paint.

also consider 3m clear bra before your paint sets in

for products, pick up a porter cable and all the pads, etc. from this site:

http://www.autopia.org/

then, pick up the best product i've used for black paint assuming that is what you have:

http://www.poorboysworld.com/ex-sealant.htm

this is a sealant that includes caranuba wax, which is the best for black paint.

why do i use poorboys? simple... there are competing products that exhibit the same shine... but NONE are close to how easy this product is to apply. if you wax your car twice or more per year you know how much an easy off wax matters. can't explain how much better life is with the ex....

have you used the Nattys Paste Wax? Any particular reason you prefer the EX over that?
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Re: When to first wax?

you should wait at least 30 days since the truck was originally painted bc the paint HAS to cure. after that any wax,sealant is fine!

i just bought the new meguiars ultimate liquid wax and also bought blackfire wet diamond to try out
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