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re: 2015 Wrangler JK Information Thread

The Jeep website lists "Trailer Sway Dampening" as a standard item on all 2014 (and presumably 2015) Wrangler models (with no mention of any tow package being required). See the "Compare Models" detailed chart, towing section, at jeep.com. It is a part of the standard ESC system. Per the manual:

Trailer Sway Control (TSC)
TSC uses sensors in the vehicle to recognize an excessively
swaying trailer and will take the appropriate
actions to attempt to stop the sway. The system may
reduce engine power and apply the brake of the appropriate
wheel(s) to counteract the sway of the trailer. TSC
will become active automatically once an excessively
swaying trailer is recognized. No driver action is required.
Note that TSC cannot stop all trailers from
swaying. Always use caution when towing a trailer and
follow the tongue weight recommendations. Refer to
“Trailer Towing” in “Starting and Operating” for further
information. When TSC is functioning, the “ESC
Activation/Malfunction Indicator Light” will flash, the
engine power may be reduced and you may feel the
brakes being applied to individual wheels to attempt to
stop the trailer from swaying. TSC is disabled when the
ESP system is in the “Partial Off” or “Full Off” modes

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re: 2015 Wrangler JK Information Thread

Just a curious question, one I actually don't have the answer for.

However, does the Freedomtop headliner, cause for any issues storing the panels? I'm not really sure its a sound investment for the money, and if its going to be a pain worrying about tearing and or staining it, or what have you from storing the panels, I'll pass.
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Just a curious question, one I actually don't have the answer for.

However, does the Freedomtop headliner, cause for any issues storing the panels? I'm not really sure its a sound investment for the money, and if its going to be a pain worrying about tearing and or staining it, or what have you from storing the panels, I'll pass.
I have to admit I haven't popped the panels yet! However, I'm in Arizona and am convinced that the headliner keeps the vehicle cooler - better insulation. Others have claimed it is quieter but I haven't done a comparison. If you don't want to pay the price, you can buy the same OEM headliner and install it yourself.
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Yeah, I'm in AZ too, and you know it, any heat reduction is better than none out here lol.
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Price protection

See page 320 & 325 in this thread. Good luck.

I'd quote them here but don't know how the multi quote thing works.
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I picked up my jku hard rock on Friday and asked for the tow/recovery kit. Said it was normally sent to the parts department. They said they knew nothing about it and would look into it and call me back. I left a vm reminding them yesterday but haven't heard back. In my paperwork I can find nothing mentioning the dealer installed tow cables etc.. Where can I find a document I can point to for showing the dealer?
In addition to the general package content list that Pat posted, you should be able to find it listed for your own Hard Rock. Log onto the Jeep Owner website, click on the Learn tab, click on Equipment on the left, scroll down to Optional Equipment and click on the "+" to expand it, and look thru the list. In the list you should find "MOPAR Jeep Trail Rated Kit".

If needed, take a screen shot and bring it to your dealer. Though, your dealer can directly access the same list too.

I'll add, I can't believe your dealer is giving you grief over this. These kits have been shipping for nearly a year now. There is either a large pile of them accumulating in their parts dept, or the parts dept guy is privately selling them off on eBay.
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Ordered on 8/10, received @ dealer on 9/17. Problem is, I'm being told the price increase will affect me. That's a difference of $860 for me. I'm tempted to kill the deal...I've looked through 100 pages of this thread to get some info but can't find it. What was the cutoff date for price protection?
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Price protection:

Bona fide sold orders obtained by the dealer prior to August 27, 2014 will be price protected provided that:

1. THE CUSTOMER NAME APPEARS ON THE FACTORY ORDER PRIOR TO SHIP DATE (KZ).

2. The vehicle is delivered to the ordering customer within (10) calendar days after being received by the dealer (X date) and the sale is reported to
Chrysler Group LLC under the DealerCONNECT system within 2 calendar days of the sale.
I think this is the pertinent reply, Sounds like you need to have a sit-down with your sales person.
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I think this is the pertinent reply, Sounds like you need to have a sit-down with your sales person.
Having been in the car business for the last 15 years, I would side step the salesperson and speak directly to the sales manager. If he doesn't honor the deal to your satisfaction then ask to speak with the general manager. Stating that you simply want what was already agreed to and mentioning that this story would not reflect kindly on the dealership once its explained on social media what has transpired usually does the trick.

A friend of mine posted directly to Toyota when a dealership was trying to hide his first lease payment on top of an already agreed to price and it was rectified in a day.

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I think this is the pertinent reply, Sounds like you need to have a sit-down with your sales person.

Man, why do some dealers choose to be so shady?
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Man, why do some dealers choose to be so shady?
Because the business model of the auto industry is still in the 1950's. Would that a Jeep dealer anywhere in NY did what many Ford/GM/Subaru dealers here do: one price, period, no different than buying a tv at Target, Best Buy or Sears.

You used to negotiate the price on furniture, mattresses and appliances like tv's and washing machines not long ago. Actually, there are still a couple of local stores selling all of those that expect you to and if you walk in not knowing that or doing research you get taken.
(I grew up in the car business)
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Man, why do some dealers choose to be so shady?
I wouldn't say it's the "dealer" as in the whole dealership... I'd say salespeople vary greatly in their ability to either delight or upset the customer. Some of the things that make us mad stem from the fact that most salespeople aren't held to a high standard in terms of knowing all pertinent details. For example, if I had that job, I'd read all of the owners manuals of every car on the lot. Most salespeople don't have any clue about car features. Same with all the e-mails/bulletins that we learn about here that the salespeople have access to but ignore. If they're customer centric, they'll know what they need to know and leave us happy. If they're only worried about putting food on the table, they'll just make you mad... Follow previous advice and ask to speak to management. Just like in any other job, bad apples need to be exposed to their management so they can make informed hiring/firing types of decisions.

I live less than two miles from a Jeep dealer. Sometimes I go in there to see what's on the lot. I've yet to find a truly informed salesperson. One time I did encounter a "Jeep Guy" though. Given the questionable level of knowledge and the fact it seems that turnover in the industry is high, I have to believe that most salespeople don't get paid enough to care (in their opinion- I was raised to care no matter how little or much I was paid). I personally think it'd be fun to sell Jeeps, but nobody could afford me and I'd never be able to get in one in front of a customer or I'd make the interior look too small.
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^^^^^
Yup, which proves my point that the auto industry needs to move away from commissions and negotiating prices and let the business model get with the times.

I've owned about 20 motorcycles. The last 2 were brand new and other than my very first back in 1988 were the only brand new ones I've ever bought. For both of those (Victory's) I walked out of dealerships closer to me and bought elsewhere when the salesmen admitted that they didn't even ride, let alone own, motorcycles.

My dad's last 2 jobs before he passed away were as the used car manager at a Subaru and then Jeep dealer. Every co-worker I sent to him told me how refreshing it was to have a salesman just tell him straight up "this is the price, this is what you can expect from us as far as service and support, period. I hope we can make a deal".
Having said that, I wouldn't so much as buy a quart of oil from the Jeep dealer because the place is still topped up with those double breasted cheap suit and wingtips wearing hacks that usually reek of cigarette smoke and parts guys that look at customers as people bothering them.

I'm a firm believer in badmouthing AND praising when each is deserved. BTW I also don't subscribe to the "I'm the customer and ALWAYS right!" line as everyone is entitled to make a fair living and you probably are in the wrong place if you go to a steakhouse demanding a vegetarian meal.

I just might order from Pat in Illinois and make a nice train trip adventure out of it.
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