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Are the factory liners just on the top or are they on the back sides too?


From the looks on the order/configure page, they do....

Maybe ArcherAce will confirm...

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From the looks on the order/configure page, they do....

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Once they leave to get the headliner installed, they do not come back to the plant. I don't thing I've ever seen a headliner.
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Are the factory liners just on the top or are they on the back sides too?
Back sides also.
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Thank you all again for the great information you've provided. I went to my local dealership yesterday to inquire about ordering a 2016 JKURHR in White 24J, Max Tow, Black Hard Top, 4.1 Axle Ratio, 430 Radio, Remote Start, and Air. Dealer MSRP was at $48055. Dealer quoted me 5% below msrp at $45573 and asked for a 1k deposit.

Before i place my order i wanted to get some more opinions from you all. This will be my first Jeep and My First New Car. I've always purchased used cars.

1) Should i Purchase or Lease ? My Credit is 790+ I am looking to keep this vehicle even if i was to lease it.

2) What payments will i be looking at with $1800 Down? i've used the jeep website for payment calculator but i want to know what people are truly paying with Tax License and registration costs.

3) what dealer traps should i be careful about? The dealer gave me a great price i just dont want to be taken advantage of during the paperwork signing.
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I purchased my Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock with the 24J package for $51,488.00 incl tax, license, registration. I also have the dual top package, hardtop in white, body color fenders, remote start, climate control a/c and side mounted air bags, engine block heater, max tow, 430N, Etc.....

it's JMO, but i think the dealer could improve upon the deal.

With a 790 Fico score,,,you are a walk in unsecured signature loan at several banks! I went with the Wrangler Unlimited Hard Rock because i as well will be keeping mine and completing upgrades as i see fit and i wanted all the bells and whistles.

If i was going to lease mine, my monthly payments would have been $707.00 with $5000.00 down.

I paid mine in full, received 5% off

I would ask for 1 year free oil changes (In Writing), a free WARN WINCH, or depending on what you are going to do regarding off road,,,a deal on a 3" lift kit. Talk directly to the (Sales Manager) as all sales go through the sales manager or higher up's!
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I ordered mine from a Houston dealership, got about 5% below dealer invoice...approx $5500 off MSRP. Hopefully making the 4 hour drive to pick it up in a couple weeks.
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No Sir, River Oaks Jeep in Houston. Saved a couple more thousand than any dealer near me.....they didn't even try to come close.
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Thank you all again for the great information you've provided. I went to my local dealership yesterday to inquire about ordering a 2016 JKURHR in White 24J, Max Tow, Black Hard Top, 4.1 Axle Ratio, 430 Radio, Remote Start, and Air. Dealer MSRP was at $48055. Dealer quoted me 5% below msrp at $45573 and asked for a 1k deposit.

Before i place my order i wanted to get some more opinions from you all. This will be my first Jeep and My First New Car. I've always purchased used cars.

1) Should i Purchase or Lease ? My Credit is 790+ I am looking to keep this vehicle even if i was to lease it.

2) What payments will i be looking at with $1800 Down? i've used the jeep website for payment calculator but i want to know what people are truly paying with Tax License and registration costs.

3) what dealer traps should i be careful about? The dealer gave me a great price i just dont want to be taken advantage of during the paperwork signing.
#1 I'm not certain there's a huge benefit to leasing if you're already planning on paying off the lease at the end to keep the vehicle. Perhaps it could end up being a lower payment now, huge chunk to finance later option if you're tight on cash, but that can lead to a pretty nasty situation where you've paid a bunch of money and have little equity. At least a loan to purchase gets you pretty good equity with today's interest rates.

#2 Payments will vary given your location's taxes and registration fees. What somebody else pays will be different based on these things. I can't supply an example payment as I decided after financing my first car that if the loan wasn't 0% I wasn't going to finance another car. Turns out they gave me 0% on our 2004 Rubicon back in 2004, so I took that free money.

#3 Our dealer "financial" person had a piece of paper with the ultimate package, the next level down that dropped something, etc, etc that was stuff like 3 year windshield replacement policy, tire/rim insurance, underbody protectant, service plan... Can't recall if there was something else or not. I declined it all figuring we were going to buy another Jeep later this year (if purple is ever available on the Rubicon Hard Rock), and I can't say if I was even tempted to take any of it. I have debated things like the lifetime warranty since we plan on keeping the Jeep until it rusts through or whatever (which I'll probably try to keep some sort of protectant on it to avoid such a scenario), etc. To me it all comes down to these being the large profit area for a dealer, so they're not that good of a deal. Do your own math on how often you've blown a tire or ran over a nail that couldn't be patched. If you pay somewhere like a jiffy lube to do the oil change, perhaps a higher price through the dealer may make sense to establish a relationship. If I did that, I'd sure be tempted to say "I've brought you the business on all the oil changes, periodic maintenance, etc, please make me a deal on ..." if I had a large repair down the road. Again, I'm not that great at examples here, as I do mostly all my own work on my cars even if they sit in the garage for months waiting for me to have a free afternoon.

I don't begrudge the dealer a profit of course- they've got to have a reason to be in business, but the add-ons are huge for them profit-wise. If you like something they offer near the end of the sale, see if that price is negotiable, maybe? You might find a win-win- you get an easy route to maintenance and the financial person takes his family out for a decent meal...
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No Sir, River Oaks Jeep in Houston. Saved a couple more thousand than any dealer near me.....they didn't even try to come close.
I was working with them too, trying to get a Granite Crystal JKRHR. They offered 5.5% below invoice (you need an affiliate control number to get that price, meaning a TreadLightly membership or whatever so you can get one). I had a hard time getting them to call me back to order when they became available, so I checked locally (in IL) and was offered 4.6% below invoice (still required affiliate control number).

Went with the local dealer since it would actually work out cheaper given the costs to get the Jeep from TX to IL (either delivery or fly down and drive it back). In hindsight, I'm glad River Oaks didn't get right back with me, given that I'll be paying a bit less in the long run going with the IL dealer.
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Thank you all again for the great information you've provided. I went to my local dealership yesterday to inquire about ordering a 2016 JKURHR in White 24J, Max Tow, Black Hard Top, 4.1 Axle Ratio, 430 Radio, Remote Start, and Air. Dealer MSRP was at $48055. Dealer quoted me 5% below msrp at $45573 and asked for a 1k deposit.

Before i place my order i wanted to get some more opinions from you all. This will be my first Jeep and My First New Car. I've always purchased used cars.

1) Should i Purchase or Lease ? My Credit is 790+ I am looking to keep this vehicle even if i was to lease it.

2) What payments will i be looking at with $1800 Down? i've used the jeep website for payment calculator but i want to know what people are truly paying with Tax License and registration costs.

3) what dealer traps should i be careful about? The dealer gave me a great price i just dont want to be taken advantage of during the paperwork signing.
1) If you know beyond any reasonable doubt that you will buy out the lease, you should buy straight away. Unless there is some regional/dealer incentive (there are no national incentives as of last week) that makes it financially beneficial.

2) Use your state's DMV site to estimate your tax, registration, title, and plate fees.

3) Pricing traps... Price out your vehicle using invoice price on, for example, Truecar.com. This will give you the dealers gross cost -- if you consider the dealer hold back and incentives, their price is even lower than the sum of their invoice. You can estimate dealer holdback @ 3% MSRP. More details here: What Is Dealer Holdback? on Edmunds.com
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I was working with them too, trying to get a Granite Crystal JKRHR. They offered 5.5% below invoice (you need an affiliate control number to get that price, meaning a TreadLightly membership or whatever so you can get one). I had a hard time getting them to call me back to order when they became available, so I checked locally (in IL) and was offered 4.6% below invoice (still required affiliate control number).

Went with the local dealer since it would actually work out cheaper given the costs to get the Jeep from TX to IL (either delivery or fly down and drive it back). In hindsight, I'm glad River Oaks didn't get right back with me, given that I'll be paying a bit less in the long run going with the IL dealer.
It is a big dealership with a lot of people calling and emailing every day and for every model, sometimes it takes him a while. Either way, I'm glad you got it ordered. Also, that would be a loooong drive.
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It is a big dealership with a lot of people calling and emailing every day and for every model, sometimes it takes him a while. Either way, I'm glad you got it ordered. Also, that would be a loooong drive.
Wow - 5.5% below invoice is huge. Does Jeep have additional dealer incentives beyond the holdback? How does that dealership make the $$ work or are they expecting/relying on servicing for even out of state?
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