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I finally decided on Granite for a 2017 Willys. I went back to page one and read where Milous informed us that Granite will not be available for 2017 Willys. I am thinking about Rhino now but haven't seen Rhino in person. Any thoughts on Rhino vs. Granite? They look pretty similar on the jeep.com build site.

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Oh gosh!! See this makes me more nervous. Let the anxiety kick in now. LMBO!! I wouldn't doubt it if they do that. I wonder if they try to get a feel of what every body is anxious for and release each color depending on the demand, then the least dominant, or least sought after color gets the ax and is only available for a limited time, THAT color would more than likely be purple. Lol. Or they just draw the colors out of a hat. Do eeny meeny mini moe. OR Rock Paper Scissors. I don't know. I'm sure there's a theory. Just guessing.
just get your ducks in a row for purchasing, watch this site daily, and as soon as the ordering is available sprint to the dealership and order. saw a purple with black top and fenders for the first time the other day, it was stunning and i didnt like it based off the pictures i had seen. if i only could have 2, there would be an extreme purple next to my hypergreen
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Granite has a metal flake and rhino doesnt. I base these on nail polish. Don't judge. Lol. I think rhino has a little bit of a blue hue to it too and that may be just me. Google it, wrangler in rhino and you'll see plenty of pics of wranglers in rhino. I can't make up my mind whether I like or not. One day I do, one day I don't.
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just get your ducks in a row for purchasing, watch this site daily, and as soon as the ordering is available sprint to the dealership and order. saw a purple with black top and fenders for the first time the other day, it was stunning and i didnt like it based off the pictures i had seen. if i only could have 2, there would be an extreme purple next to my hypergreen
Oh yeah! Me too! Love that hyper green! local dealership here put a lift kit and wheels on a hyper green Rubi a few weeks ago. The salesman sent me a pic of it still in the garage while they were finishing it up. Sold the very next morning. It's crazy! I never even had a chance to drive there and look at it!
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I finally decided on Granite for a 2017 Willys. I went back to page one and read where Milous informed us that Granite will not be available for 2017 Willys. I am thinking about Rhino now but haven't seen Rhino in person. Any thoughts on Rhino vs. Granite? They look pretty similar on the jeep.com build site.
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Black/Silver/Granite Crystal Met./Anvil/Rhino
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I purchased a 2016 JKU in Rhino. Had intentions of getting GCM but the dealer had both in stock and We loved the Rhino. Its similar to Anvil, but less "trash can" gray and more of a bluish hue. Both great colors, but I see less Rhino in my neck of the woods.
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I finally decided on Granite for a 2017 Willys. I went back to page one and read where Milous informed us that Granite will not be available for 2017 Willys. I am thinking about Rhino now but haven't seen Rhino in person. Any thoughts on Rhino vs. Granite? They look pretty similar on the jeep.com build site.
A good quick way to get lots of pics of both is cars.com, or some of the other auto search engines. There will usually be several pics of each color, with many different lighting options. You can even see the same color on different Jeep models.

Still, the naked eye is the best. My Baja looked so much different "in person".

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Thanks everyone for the color help. All I had to do was mention a dilemma, and the help starts pouring in. Nothing's catching my eye like the Granite. May have to wait for Gobi. Someone posted what they thought was the Gobi a few days ago. It was an eye catcher. Thanks again for all the help.
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It is also a common misconception that service departments will treat you better on warranty if you bough the car there. They dont care whatsoever.

Car dealerships service departments make money on repairs and warranty work than from new car sales. and that that ratio is increasing in favor of repair and warrant profits every year in a 20 year trend Every service department wants your business, warranty work etc

Lastly paying $1,000 less for a vehicle is not shaving a few bucks (and new car purchases of the same exact car and trim vary by more like 10% or at least $2,500). to pay more for no reason other than on the hope of getting better warranty coverage is not supported by the facts.

A service department may welll give you better warranty service if you do you other service there as well. They dont give a rat's pititouty if you bought your car there
Your attitude comes across as robotic or maybe even disconnected at best... not only towards dealerships but also toward the people on this forum.
Service departments don't care if you purchased your car from their dealership when it comes to warranty work? You make it sound as though every dealership is a cookie cutter version of the next but unfortunately this is far from the case. What you fail to see is for said repair to be performed under warranty it has to be approved as a repair that deserves to be warrantied in the first place. Who approves this work? A person... not a robot. This is why I mentioned having a good rapport with a dealership can be very handy down the road.
Before my current '12 Sport I had purchased a new JKU in 2008. Roughly eight months after the purchase, work dictated that I travel a few states away for 2 months. While in this new area I couldn't resist finding a few new trails to explore. While out on the trails my throw out bearing decided to go south... I limped into the local dealership and after watching my wrangler sit on a lift for an hour with at least five different mechanics looking it over I was informed that because of my suspension lift and tires that they couldn't and wouldn't honor the warranty. All repairs would have to be covered out of pocket and "we'll do what we can to keep the cost down... but there could be other damage we can't see at the moment." The service manager then offered to bring in a Chrysler rep to look at it but that might take a few days and "I'm sure he'll agree with my assessment."
Ooooookay, lol. I asked him nicely to take my Jeep off the lift and leave it in the parking lot while I make my decision. I then sat in my jeep and called the service manager of the dealership that up until then had only performed 4 oil changes for me. It was great that I knew this guys name, had spoke with him each time I went in for service... one time even dropping off some donuts for an unexpected repair they could have charged me for. I told him exactly what this other service manager had just told me, his mentioning of a Chrysler rep, etc... didn't leave anything out. He laughed and said... "get it to me and we'll take care of it. That's a pretty mild lift/tire combo you have (2.5") so that shouldn't have caused your bearing failure... etc." My son and his friend came down overnight with a truck and trailer and his TJ... left me the TJ (used to be mine, lol) my JKU went to the dealership back home and when I returned in two weeks she was ready to roll... freshly washed to boot. Sorry for the rambling on but as you can see people make the decisions... not machines. People should be treated like people, not inanimate objects. I prefer to go through life looking people in the eye, shaking a hand, learning their name and actually trusting my fellow human being.
So with that in mind... maybe you can explain to everyone here why so many times repairs that should be covered under warranty either aren't or you just plain have to fight tooth and nail for it to be covered. If warranty work is such a treasure trove for dealerships they shouldn't think twice about approving warranty work correct?.. but they do.... all the time. There are truck, car and jeep forums packed with threads of people complaining they were denied coverage. I just explained one such incident to you. That is why I said a decent or good rapport can be a positive thing.
And lastly (as you say) where in my original post did I compare "shaving a few bucks" equalling a thousand dollars?
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Diogen,

What is causing all the negativity you have with car dealers and the buying process?

Allow me to tell you about my recent 2017 JK purchasing experience:

Stopped in at our local dealer and told him what I wanted and asked for his price. Of course he came back higher than I wanted. 99.99% of people selling anything come in with a high first offer. Then pulled out the print out from Koons that showed 7% under invoice plus their $599 doc fee. Told the salesperson if he got within $400 of that price including their doc fees it would cover my traveling expenses to Koons and back. He came back around $600 higher and I said no deal, $400 or I go to Koons. He asked if I was prepared to order it today and my response was of course. Once again he went to talk to the manager and then came back, told me we were good to go at the $400 over Koons and shook my hand and we did the paperwork. Nice enough salesperson, we spent some time talking about hunting, fishing, and sports cars we owned in the past.
No anger, no one yelling, just some polite back and forth negotiations. The subject of would I be financing didn't even come up.
Did the dealer make money? Of course he did. He has a building to pay for as well as a couple of dozen employees. How much did he make? I don't care, its not my business to know. I am just glad we have his dealership in town that I can use for repairs and warranty work as well as parts down the road.


Not every dealer is out to screw everyone. Some people bring it on themselves with the attitude they go in with. Especially the ones who have a POS trade in then complain to everyone on the internet how the dealer tried to low ball them. Remember, no one can make anyone trade in a car. If you don't like their offer sell it yourself.
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Thunderjet -

It sounds like you had a much better experience than I did. I contacted a local dealer who I have purchased two Ram trucks from ($50K turbo diesel models). Sent him my Wrangler build specs, told him I was shopping around and asked him to get me a price.

After a week of him putting me off saying he needed to talk to his manager he sends me a message telling me, "I have put him in an awkward position", by asking him to quote me a price when he knows I have other pricing. He basically told me he wouldn't give me a price without me telling him my lowest price first.

I told him that wasn't how it worked, and that I was going to buy a Wrangler from someone, if he couldn't give me a price it wouldn't be him.

I had a completely reasonable interaction with a couple other dealers via email. I sent them the build, they sent me pricing much higher than Koons. I asked if they could get closer and none of them would get within $1500 or so.

I agree with others that the sales model in place for cars is frustrating at best. Even when you attempt to make the item you are buying a commodity by being up front with the dealers and telling them that you are shopping around it sometimes becomes playing a game. I have been very happy with the experience so far with Koons, looking forward to picking up my new Wrangler there.
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I'll be the first to admit I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to complete my "deal". It normally is not that stress free. I give a little credit to the fact I am new to the area and never bought a vehicle in Tennessee before so maybe the dealer was trying to create a good first impression.

You did a smart thing by going with Koons. My brief interaction with them was very good. I even emailed them thanking for their time after ordering my JK locally and they actually thanked me.
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