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re: 2017 Wrangler JK Information Thread

Are y'all with the JKUR or JKUHR happy with the electronic sway bar disconnect and the e lockers? Or should I just go with a Willys and eventually go to beefy axles, tubes and air lockers?

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Is Saddle Leather an option with 2017 HardRock?
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Is Saddle Leather an option with 2017 HardRock?
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Is Saddle Leather an option with 2017 HardRock?
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Will saddle leather be an option on the Hard Rock replacement?
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Will saddle leather be an option on the Hard Rock replacement?
Do not know yet, could be awhile before options are known...
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Just placed my order :
  • 2017 JKUR Hardrock
  • Automatic transmission
  • Body Color Hardtop and fenders
  • 4.10 Axle ratio
  • Firecracker Red

Price is 1% below invoice + Taxes, had better offers from out of state dealers (Dennis Dillon up in Boise, ID). Decided to go with this one mainly because of trade in value and tax savings. I am trading in my 2013 JKUR (trade in value is $1000 below the sale price I paid in June 2013!). I live in Colorado and we get tax credit for the trade in value, have to pay the tax only on the difference (new car- trade in).

Now the wait begins!

Thanks everyone on the forum for all the valuable information.
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Just placed my order :

[*]2017 JKUR Hardrock[*]Automatic transmission[*]Body Color Hardtop and fenders[*]4.10 Axle ratio[*]Firecracker Red
THAT is going to be one cool looking HardRock!
Congrats.
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I am sure this has been mentioned, but the Alpine I feel is totally worth the cost. The stock stereo and speakers are pretty much awful.

However, the 430/430n I do not feel is worth their cost in any way shape or form. The Wrangler is stupidly easy to replace the headunit and for $600/$1200 you can get a much better headunit for less. The radio can be removed in less than 15 minutes. I installed a Kenwood CarPlay/Android Auto unit for about the price of the 430, and I gained HD radio, CarPlay/Android Auto, better interface, OBDC access (Speed, RPM, MPG, fuel level), and more. My steering wheel buttons retain their functions (I actually gained more function bc I was able to assign a function to "holding" the button), and the radio looks nicely integrated.

Edit: I did not get either with our Jeep and I totally regret not getting the Alpine. I do not regret missing out on the 430/430n though.
what unit did you get and how well does carPlay work? thanks
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So what is the "M" edition?
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Originally Posted by malirubi View Post
Just placed my order :
  • 2017 JKUR Hardrock
  • Automatic transmission
  • Body Color Hardtop and fenders
  • 4.10 Axle ratio
  • Firecracker Red

Price is 1% below invoice + Taxes, had better offers from out of state dealers (Dennis Dillon up in Boise, ID). Decided to go with this one mainly because of trade in value and tax savings. I am trading in my 2013 JKUR (trade in value is $1000 below the sale price I paid in June 2013!). I live in Colorado and we get tax credit for the trade in value, have to pay the tax only on the difference (new car- trade in).

Now the wait begins!

Thanks everyone on the forum for all the valuable information.
Congrats! That red is a great color.

FYI, just for clarity, and even though many dealers imply otherwise, there is no tax difference for you as a Colorado resident buying in Colorado or Idaho, with or without a trade in. Idaho does not charge non residents any tax, and you would pay your 2.9% tax o Colorado just the same on the same basis (in your case with trade done at purchase, subtracted) purchase in colorado. As well as your additional local taxes, which are more costly generally than the state sales tax, are mostly MSRP based, ie not affected by trade in.
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Thanks Diogen!

The dealer in Colorado was offering better trade in value than Dennis Dillon ($4500 more). This was more savings than what I had on the new Jeep from them plus I have to take into account a trip to Boise and shipping or driving the Jeep back (which I don't mind).

I am aware of the fact that I only have to pay taxes in CO (around 8.45% including local taxes). It would have been great if I can get the tax credit even when I do a private party sale or sell to another dealer, I checked with my accountant and DMV and both mentioned the tax credit is available only when I trade thru the dealer. In most cases the dealer who offers a good deal on the new car doesn't offer a great deal on the new one.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I have owned 2 Saharas, and both maintained an amazing resale value
they do have good resale compared to other wrangler and certainly wrangler at all trims is above average compared to other vehicles. But a lot of that elevated resale is at increasing downward pressure risk from now out.

Downward pressure on resale of a 2016 or 2017 JK in 2019-2021 includes:
1) increasing MPG disadvantage relative to all vehicles
2) #1 amplified by any rise in real dollar gas prices which have been at near 100 year real dollar lows the past three years. In therwords the very long tredn is flat but we are in a very low valley sub-oscilation on gas costs the past couple of years, which increases relative value of gas guzzlers
3) Increasing safety disadvantage, both in in-accident injury risk, and accident mitigation, relative to average of pool of other vehicles available new and used

You and I and a good deal of other people may not be comparing Wrangler to competition because some proportion, likely a large one, including me, don't see any competitive choice. But some of the market is looking at other vehicles. I know some 2-door JK owners who were also considering alternate fun convertible like miata or mini. I know some Sahara buyers who were also looking at CRV, Outback/Forester, Rav4, Highlander, Pilot, etc I know some who were also considering 4runner. Most? Likly not. En

I'm not not saying these trends will tank resale values, but the position the JK was in the past five years relative ot other vehicles was low impact of its negatives, and those negatives will increase in impact an d erode some of the resale advantage. Or, in other words a lot of variables that would put upward pressure on JK resale relative to the market are at likely peaks right now.

Part of the excellent resale being at a higher risk in future is also likely not a major factor for most buyers. It is not for me and may not be for you. But I would caution the small segment of buyers making a marginal affordability purchase from depending on that high resale being fully present in future.
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