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Old 08-22-2016, 06:52 PM
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I kind of over reacted anyway. I am a CPA and for all the toys I have purchased in my life, I have never really just made an impulse buy for the hell of it.

I wish someday, just once, I'd go out and just buy something that I want without thinking about it. I am not talking about a Huracan mind you but just allowing myself to spend a few bucks and not worry so much. But I think I am too OCD for that. NC
Here's a suggestion for you. Buy whatever Jeep you think will suit your needs. Then go out and buy yourself a used Challenger Hellcat. You will avoid the stress and grief of trying to buy that car new (prices are coming down on them) and you will have a really fun ride both on and off road. I bought a new Hellcat last year for MSRP and the car is amazing. Every time I drive it I just get this huge grin going on. My '05 Wrangler Unlimited is now 11 years old and I decided to treat myself to a new Jeep. I'm retired, not getting any younger, and may a well convert an account balance to something fun. We don't know when our time is going to be up, but when it is, it's too late for anything else.

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I kind of over reacted anyway. I am a CPA and for all the toys I have purchased in my life, I have never really just made an impulse buy for the hell of it. I always research, research, research and by the time I am ready to buy I am so exhausted it almost ruins the buying experience.

I wish someday, just once, I'd go out and just buy something that I want without thinking about it. I am not talking about a Huracan mind you but just allowing myself to spend a few bucks and not worry so much. But I think I am too OCD for that.

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I'm the same way. I over think, over analyze, put together a 1000 options until it stresses me out. On the positive side, 99% of the time I make the right decision. Very rarely do I regret a made decision. I have, however, regretted a missed opportunity due to over thinking.
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Here's a suggestion for you. Buy whatever Jeep you think will suit your needs. Then go out and buy yourself a used Challenger Hellcat. You will avoid the stress and grief of trying to buy that car new (prices are coming down on them) and you will have a really fun ride both on and off road. I bought a new Hellcat last year for MSRP and the car is amazing. Every time I drive it I just get this huge grin going on. My '05 Wrangler Unlimited is now 11 years old and I decided to treat myself to a new Jeep. I'm retired, not getting any younger, and may a well convert an account balance to something fun. We don't know when our time is going to be up, but when it is, it's too late for anything else.
Well said.

The below is from an online buddy regarding spinal cord injuries. Recently a well liked motocross racer suffered such an injury and this guy who is one of the well wishers said he works with a lot of people who have spinal cord injuries and I asked him what industry he works in and if he sees any really common causes. He makes some good points.

"I do vehicle modifications for people with disabilities. It is absolutely amazing the many reasons people end up in wheelchairs. As far as activities, we've all done the things they did. Sometimes things just go wrong and some people pay a bigger price.
I've had a few motocrossers and a couple of street riders, surprisingly they are not one of the most common. Car accidents by far, diving and gunshots close second, then it gets very varied. Even heard of a guy who sneezed too hard, and I heard of this from the hospital so it's believable. Then there's illness, so many...too many. Some people just wake up and can no longer move. It's crazy.
One thing I can tell you, it is much better to end up in a wheelchair due to a spinal injury than due to a brain injury.
Do what makes you happy, there are no guarantees in life."
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I'm the same way. I over think, over analyze, put together a 1000 options until it stresses me out. On the positive side, 99% of the time I make the right decision. Very rarely do I regret a made decision. I have, however, regretted a missed opportunity due to over thinking.
Tell me about. I could have swung a brand new 911 Carrera S model about 18 months ago. What would have been, for me, the perfection of a rear wheel drive, manual transmission high performance sports car. Now Porsche have sterilized the 911, and Cayman and Boxster for that matter, with turbo charged engines. Talk about having missed out.

OTOH, that means I can buy another Jeep.

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Well said.

The below is from an online buddy regarding spinal cord injuries. He said he works with a lot of people who have spinal cord injuries and I asked him what industry he works in and if he sees any really common causes. He makes some good points.

"I do vehicle modifications for people with disabilities. It is absolutely amazing the many reasons people end up in wheelchairs. As far as activities, we've all done the things they did. Sometimes things just go wrong and some people pay a bigger price.
I've had a few motocrossers and a couple of street riders, surprisingly they are not one of the most common. Car accidents by far, diving and gunshots close second, then it gets very varied. Even heard of a guy who sneezed too hard, and I heard of this from the hospital so it's believable. Then there's illness, so many...too many. Some people just wake up and can no longer move. It's crazy.
One thing I can tell you, it is much better to end up in a wheelchair due to a spinal injury than due to a brain injury.
Do what makes you happy, there are no guarantees in life."
That sir, pretty much defines it. When I was younger I was all about responsibility, making good choices, trying to get ahead. It was a good plan and paid off well, but not without some compromises along the way. At some point in life you come to the conslusion that having a plan and a goal is essential. Then there is a tipping point, where you can take a deep breath and say I did what I set out to, I have no regrets, and now I'm entitled to some payback without any guilt. Life is a journey.
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What are the differences in the 2016 Unlimited Willys W and the 2017 Unlimited Willys W? Thanks!
It is $100 more in two door and $200 more in four door for no increase in any features. Just 2% inflation. I already had the builds compared by dealer working off of 2017 order form.

As far as I can tell, the models and trims that went up $450 have LED standard, the models and trims that are going up $100 - $200 have it as an option of $595 or about $500-$550 negotiated. Willys appear to have gone up $100 to $200 indicating that LED is an option on it.
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Also seems that Cold Weather Group couldn't be added to a Willys?

How else could I get heated seats in a Willys (or just not possible)? Otherwise, I'm stuck building out a Sport S. :/
My guess is lower Willys and base Sport use a less sophisticated wiring harness with less branches, and WWW and Sport S use a more sophisticated one, since there are a lot less electric items not only included, but even just allowed as purchased options, on the first pair.

You also can't get side airbags no matter what on WW, while you can on WWW. Likely the sport and WW share a wiring harness and Sport S and WWW share a more sophisticated one. they might mess with you to get you to move up to the next trim to get heated seat, but I don't think they would intentionally do that on the airbags. for that just to be pricing strategy on a vehicle with such bad side impact ratings would be reprehensible.

so I think it is more sophisticated, perhaps heavier gauge in some parts, harness, plus more complex harness install complexity, from a labor standpoint, and perhaps some control circuits.

If you want any of those electrical options, singly or in combination, you are way better off kitting out a Sport S as a WW than buying a WWW
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Any ideas on whether Yellow will be a Willys option for the 2017 models?
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I kind of over reacted anyway. I am a CPA and for all the toys I have purchased in my life, I have never really just made an impulse buy for the hell of it. I always research, research, research and by the time I am ready to buy I am so exhausted it almost ruins the buying experience.

I wish someday, just once, I'd go out and just buy something that I want without thinking about it. I am not talking about a Huracan mind you but just allowing myself to spend a few bucks and not worry so much. But I think I am too OCD for that.

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I'm willing to bet just about every person on this forum knows more about Wranglers than any salesperson they happen to be dealing with, lol.
Just the other day I said to my wife it must be amazing to just walk onto a car lot... pick out a vehicle because you like the color and that's that. No agonizing hour upon hour of comparing engines, gear ratios, transmissions and tire and rim combinations. For example, my brother in law picked up a new Ram pickup last year... I asked him what it had for a motor... he didn't know. Seriously, he didn't know. I honestly had no idea what to say lol.
When I was a kid my drug of choice was car and motorcycle magazines and dealership brochures... I'd read them over and over and over. Then the internet comes along and.....
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I'm willing to bet just about every person on this forum knows more about Wranglers than any salesperson they happen to be dealing with, lol.
Just the other day I said to my wife it must be amazing to just walk onto a car lot... pick out a vehicle because you like the color and that's that. No agonizing hour upon hour of comparing engines, gear ratios, transmissions and tire and rim combinations. For example, my brother in law picked up a new Ram pickup last year... I asked him what it had for a motor... he didn't know. Seriously, he didn't know. I honestly had no idea what to say lol.
When I was a kid my drug of choice was car and motorcycle magazines and dealership brochures... I'd read them over and over and over. Then the internet comes along and.....
That part in bold makes me your brother. I did the exact same thing at the college book store. Read every car and motorycle rag every month, bought buyers guide and had a pretty good pulse on what every manufacturer had going on.

And to just actually go out and buy a vehicle off the lot? I think I'd have a stroke. Maybe I wouldn't wash and wax it relentlessly either. Some days I wish I just didn't care so much.

I need to see Acid Yellow to make up my mind.

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I'm willing to bet just about every person on this forum knows more about Wranglers than any salesperson they happen to be dealing with, lol.
I actually had to show the dealership how to order my Baja Rubi. The salesperson suggested combos that literally weren't allowed. I told him no, you can't do that. He insisted they could. I said fine, go check. Guess who was right... AND THEN, they used to call me after to get color information and release dates. I love love LOVE going into a dealership armed with a mini gun of information vs their BB Gun knowledge.

And to go to what others have recently stated, go with what ya want. What makes you happy. New cars are my one "thing". My vice if you will. Next on the hit list, Hellcat. And if I put my mind to it, I'll get it. My Jeep makes me happy to drive it. I can't imagine what a Hellcat will do! Happy Jeep hunting to all!!
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And to just actually go out an buy a vehicle off the lot? I think I'd have a stroke.
Lol... that sums it up perfectly. I'm starting to think for people with our mindset it's the thrill of the chase possibly?
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