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Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

Sorry I know these topics have been done so many times but haven't found threads that give a good overall review for the 2" mopar kit with fox shocks. Plenty of good reviews on the Aev so I'm trying to decide whether the additional money for the mopar and fox shocks are worth it? Daily driver 95% of the time. . Minimal off road. Toyo 35"x12.5X20 on 20" fuel wheels. Mopar stage 1 lift is $1500. Aev kit is $1100 with geometry brackets. Any thoughts. Thanks.


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Re: Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

I am also looking forward to an answer to this question.
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Re: Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

There are a few good write-ups on this on some of the other fora, do a google search for "mopar lift drive shaft" and you ought to find them in the results somewhere.

I am getting the MOPAR 2" installed this week, will let everyone know my thoughts. For what it's worth, I was also considering the somewhat comparable AEV 3.5" lift or the full-blown Metalcloak Game Changer w/ OME shocks.

Right now, 2015 JKUR bone stock, but Rock Hard 4x4 front and rear patriot bumpers (steel) and a Warn Zeon Platinum winch are ordered and should be on the way from Nebraska shortly. I ought to be able to provide reflections and measurements with stock and weighed down. The bumper/ winch in front and the bumper/tire carrier and 35" spare on the back ought to add about 225-230 lbs each to the front and rear.

Also, have stock Rubicon wheels and tires for now, but that will probably change within the month. I am going 35", and am torn between Duratracs, new KO2s, and maybe Nitto Trail Grapplers? Never had Nittos, but I think they're probably a good tire, if heavy in 35".

I have 1200 mi on it, and went w/ MOPAR after discussing it by email w/ a few guys at FCA in Auburn Hills, and w/ the parts and service departments at my dealer.

The FCA guys told me that the new 2" lift (as opposed to the "old" Teraflex or Rubicon Express 2.5" lifts) is all Jeep's own design, and all Jeep's own original parts made by FCA OEMs (other than the Fox shocks, of course). Knowing these FCA guys wheel at Moab every year with the Jeep factory crew, and they they had input into the new lift, I trust their design and knowledge. This is a pic of a factory Jeep w/ the new 2'" lift. Looks sweet. ImageUploadedByJeepGarage1436121561.983162.jpg

I talked to the dealer (Marin Jeep in Corte Madera CA) about the potential impact on my 3/36 bumper-to-bumper by using somebody else's lift. While I know the lift (and any damage it might cause to other components) isn't covered under the bumper-to-bumper (it has its own warranty), I was satisfied with getting my dealer to confirm orally to me their general position that since the lift is a MOPAR part, it was designed specifically not to change any factory specs, and so it pretty much couldn't ever be the cause of other damage. That isn't really a sound position, logically, but it gets me where I wanted to go. The way they see the MOPAR lift, especially if they install it, it can't be a precipitating cause of some other failure. So yes, I may be paying more than I need to to get 2" of lift, but what I am really getting is peace of mind that they're not going to screw me out of warranty coverage for something else. Now, if they try to, I am a lawyer and am not worried about a fight....


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Re: Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

Nice JW!
What size tires are on that orange Jeep?
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Re: Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

I am pretty sure he said they were 35s? Not positive. But, here's mine before and after, still w/ the stock wheels and tires, and you can see how much taller it is now:
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I didn't do any measuring, but it's significantImageUploadedByJeepGarage1436319405.944315.jpgImageUploadedByJeepGarage1436319424.445915.jpg. The ride is a little more stiff in the 13 highway/ city miles I have driven it so far (34 psi, need to come down), but good.



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Re: Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

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I got 315/70/17 duratracs yesterday, really nice tires. Using on stock rubicon wheels w/ 1.5" spidertrax spacers. Great ride, markedly better than stock rubicon tires. A little more tire noise than stock, but it's way more tire. Before and after pics attached.

On the truck, they measure somewhere between 33.5" and 33.75" tall at 38 psi. Still trying to get the psi right. 34 is too stiff. But I was hoping they'd be truer to size since they're p metric.

I picked duras over the 35" KO2s b/c duras are what I could get at america's tire, which I like. They wouldn't mount the 35" KO2s b/c BFG says they're just a little too wide for the stock wheels, higher risk for popping a bead. While this is debatable (it's 1/10th of an inch difference in width between the KO2s and duras), I have to applaud the store for not doing something they consider unsafe.


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Re: Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

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I got 315/70/17 duratracs yesterday, really nice tires. Using on stock rubicon wheels w/ 1.5" spidertrax spacers. Great ride, markedly better than stock rubicon tires. A little more tire noise than stock, but it's way more tire. Before and after pics attached.

On the truck, they measure somewhere between 33.5" and 33.75" tall at 38 psi. Still trying to get the psi right. 34 is too stiff. But I was hoping they'd be truer to size since they're p metric.

I picked duras over the 35" KO2s b/c duras are what I could get at america's tire, which I like. They wouldn't mount the 35" KO2s b/c BFG says they're just a little too wide for the stock wheels, higher risk for popping a bead. While this is debatable (it's 1/10th of an inch difference in width between the KO2s and duras), I have to applaud the store for not doing something they consider unsafe.


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With the 2" lift you still need spacers to mount the 315/70/17 Duratracs on stock Rubicon wheels? Trying to avoid spacers but keep the same rims with the 35" tires, thoughts? Perhaps 285/70/17 would work better on stock rims with no spacers on the 2" lift?


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Re: Mopar 2" stage 1 lift kit. Vs Aev 2"5 lift

It's not the height, it's the width of the tire, I think. The 315 is a lot wider than the stock Rubi tire, and rubs on the suspension components when turning--you won't be able to turn full lock without rubbing and tearing up your tires. That's why you need the spacers. FWIW I have not had a problem and am at 4200 mi now, with 4 or 5 pretty good offroad spells, and no balancing or alignment issues. If you get the Spidertrax hubcentric spacers, you won't have any trouble.


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I got 315/70/17 duratracs yesterday, really nice tires. Using on stock rubicon wheels w/ 1.5" spidertrax spacers. Great ride, markedly better than stock rubicon tires. A little more tire noise than stock, but it's way more tire. Before and after pics attached.

On the truck, they measure somewhere between 33.5" and 33.75" tall at 38 psi. Still trying to get the psi right. 34 is too stiff. But I was hoping they'd be truer to size since they're p metric.

I picked duras over the 35" KO2s b/c duras are what I could get at america's tire, which I like. They wouldn't mount the 35" KO2s b/c BFG says they're just a little too wide for the stock wheels, higher risk for popping a bead. While this is debatable (it's 1/10th of an inch difference in width between the KO2s and duras), I have to applaud the store for not doing something they consider unsafe.


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Just to verify, you installed the 2" Mopar lift on this? I'm looking at putting the 2" Mopar lift on my '15 2-door. I have 275/65R18 BF KO2's on right now on stock Sahara rims with 1.5" spacers. I'm surprised by how much wheel well space there is with the stock Rubi wheels.
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