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negotiate or affliate

I have been researching ordering a '16 model... specifically I have not found

Is it better to try and negotiate a price or just avoid the hassle and do Affiliate Pricing if available?

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Re: negotiate or affliate

That's up to you. The affiliate pricing with get you 1% under invoice (FWP). You could potentially do better (some have gotten 5.5% or more below invoice, but those dealers are few and far between).
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Re: negotiate or affliate

Invoice - rather it be 1% or 5.5% seems l like a huge variable. In other words, the Invoice price mean 67 different things. I am looking for the least haggle and 'best' price, same price as 'Joe' paid or better.
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Re: negotiate or affliate

The affiliate pricing, 1% below invoice, is the most you pay. You can use the program and still negotiate. Since the dealer gets 2% off invoice in the program, that's a fair offer. To the dealer it is the same as selling for invoice without the program.

Others have and will do better. I look for a fair price as I don't begrudge the dealer or salesman making a good living. I also find you can make a couple grand in less time than some folks spend trying to save the same amount.


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Re: negotiate or affliate

Just looking at say True Car, the Affiliate price seems like a good deal on whole. While you have the extremes on either end (guy/gal off the street - high, and penny pincher - low) the Affiliate price seems like a criminal lawyer'ing up - questioning stops. I mention I can get Affiliate and is potentially easier for me and the dealer.
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The affiliate pricing, 1% below invoice, is the most you pay. You can use the program and still negotiate. Since the dealer gets 2% off invoice in the program, that's a fair offer. To the dealer it is the same as selling for invoice without the program.

Others have and will do better. I look for a fair price as I don't begrudge the dealer or salesman making a good living. I also find you can make a couple grand in less time than some folks spend trying to save the same amount.
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I couldn't agree more and is exactly what I did. If the dealer knows you have the affiliate, he should be willing to go down that extra percent as he will make it back. If you are ordering a new 16, send emails out to a bunch of dealers looking for the best price and see what happens.
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Just looking at say True Car, the Affiliate price seems like a good deal on whole. While you have the extremes on either end (guy/gal off the street - high, and penny pincher - low) the Affiliate price seems like a criminal lawyer'ing up - questioning stops. I mention I can get Affiliate and is potentially easier for me and the dealer.
I may be wrong, but I think you need to provide your affiliate to the dealer so they can get back that money from FCA. Anything you can negotiate down from there is between you and the selling dealer.
I honestly have no issues with paying a fair price to the dealer I expect to keep the
@#$!@#$ thing running for the next several years or decades.
I have noticed that it can be easier to negotiate prices down on individual options as opposed to trying to go for overall price.
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Re: negotiate or affliate

This will be my 3rd Jeep Wrangler overall and 2nd Jeep Wrangler currently (wife has one) and I've never been back to the dealership. I do my own maintenance so I am not looking to establish a lasting relationship. More like a 1 nightstand without a transmitted disease / equally beneficial to both parties.
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Re: negotiate or affliate

Does anyone have some insight on affiliates. Who is good, or bad? Do some have more discount than others? Waiting periods? Just beginning the buying quest and want to make sure I cover all bases.
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Does anyone have some insight on affiliates. Who is good, or bad? Do some have more discount than others? Waiting periods? Just beginning the buying quest and want to make sure I cover all bases.
The affiliate's discount is determined by Chrysler, not the affiliate. It states that the "most" you will pay is one percent below invoice + a $75 service charge. You can negotiate down from that point. The dealer's nominal cost drops to two percent below invoice. So, if a dealer is willing to sell for invoice (most will) without an affiliate, they should be willing to go for two percent with it.

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The affiliate's discount is determined by Chrysler, not the affiliate. It states that the "most" you will pay is one percent below invoice + a $75 service charge. You can negotiate down from that point. The dealer's nominal cost drops to two percent below invoice. So, if a dealer is willing to sell for invoice (most will) without an affiliate, they should be willing to go for two percent with it.

Tread Lightly is not the cheapest to join, but they do some good environmental issues that are good for Jeep owners.


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I am looking to buy my first JK and need some input before I pull the trigger. I am looking at a 15 Hard Rock. The dealer says he cant go any lower than 43519. The MSRP is 45770. I find that hard to believe since the 16's are just around the corner. Also, what is this affiliate program you speak of? Is there any other ways to save money? Thanks for the help.
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