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Old 03-15-2014, 11:21 AM
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Hello to all and this looks to be the beginning of a great relationship. I have a problem and since am a chef and not a mechanic, I decided to seek intelligent advice from the family of Jeepsters. I have recently had my tires rotated on my 2009 Jeep Wrangler with 69,000 miles. I n ow hear a grinding (metal on metal) noise coming from the front. Took it back to same place and they are telling me that the wheels on this jeep are not the right size and that the grinding is the plate scraping the rim. They are suggesting, without really knowing why this is happening, that I get new wheels. Is this possible and why now after 3 years of owniership do I now hear the noise when they say it should have made the noise all along and why did they not see this the last 2 times tires were rotated?
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Welcome to the garage.
Would be strange that there was no problem for 3 years, and now suddenly there is. Did you have a look yourself to see where it is making the contact? Did they maybe forget to install some kind of spacer this time?
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I didn't ask about the spacer. They did take me back to show mw the worn areas and oddly enough, it was fresh and shiny as opposed to the overall color coverage of the rim. They blamed it on something they could'n understand themselves and asked if I had something done to the car. I reminded him that in the 3 years of ownership, he had done any and all work. He did mention that the lug nuts were not sufficient for the type of car/truck. They were greared more for higher end high performace sedans. They were on the jeep when I baught it. They did look worn and the insertion point of contact looked worn as well. ???
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You don't state your location and if this is a chain dealer or local.
If there is an Americas/Discount Tire near you, they carry really nice solid steel lug replacements that are quite inexpensive.

As for your wheel, ask them to put it back where they were and see if the problem moves with the wheel or stays with the location.
Or, you could pull the wheels and see if there are spacers behind the others but not this one.

Are these stock wheels or aftermarkets?

Is the worn area all around the circumference of the wheel, or just in a fairly small arc? You could have a suspension/alignment problem if only part of it. No idea why it would only show up after a rotation.
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Thanks for getting this post back to me. I didn't think of these issues but feel I should have-why didn't THEY think of suspension or allignment given the ridiculous weather we have had of late (Tennessee). I am in a very small town that has a Gateway Tire place. The guys are really good to us. These are supposed to be issued tires but they think they are too small for the jeep and now think previous owner bought aftermarket. (I bought the jeep when it at 2yrs of age with 29k miles. Never had issue before but they say there are worn tracks on backl tires and don't know why previous owner didn't hear the grinding noise). They did switch out lug nuts to a heartier Jeep nut and it still made the grinding noise when he simply turned the tire when up on rack. It only makes contact in certain areas of the wheel on both sides- front. Unfortunately I have replaced old wheels with n ew ones at their urging and when driving it home for the first time, the same noise remains. They have also changed the wheel bearings on driver side front wheel b/c that was their first impression for the noise, then we moved into the wheel being incorrect size for the car b/c it did not sit back far enough once in place??!!?
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post a pic so we can see what you have on there.


i know that putting a fresh set of brake pads will move the caliper closer to the wheel.

so if they are not the correct wheels perhaps they worked unitl you got new pads OR
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Will post photo. No work done accept rotation of tires initially and then the grinding started. Bearings on driver side replaced and that's when they saw the fresh shards of shiny (not dirty) wheel bits. All of this is great to take with me in the morning when I take car back. Service was done Saturday afternoon. What options do I have now that I have purchased new wheels at their reccomendation and it turns out that the old wheels were not the issue? Would it be a bad idea to drive on wheels that have grooves b/c of all of the rubbing??
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Which part of the wheels is rubbing?

The inside or the outside?

What are they rubbing on?

A suspension piece, or the fender or what?

Somebody did something wrong here... it is highly unexpected that just rotating the tires would trigger this UNLESS the rear and front wheels are different sizes, someone left off a spacer, or something...

A spacer would move the wheel out to prevent rubbing of the inside of the wheel against a suspension part or the body.

If the outside of the wheel is rubbing against the body, then the wheel is too wide for the vehicle.
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The website isn't allowing me access to the "upload photo" for some reason, however, the wheels that they took off are in the back of husband's car and I will get a pix of it/them and then figure out how to upload in a different manner. There is a metal piece when looking at the wheel is on the left edge of the wheel, it is larger in the front than in the back. When the tire is spun around it catches at some point where that piece sits. It is not a grind that occurs all the way around, only at certain points during the spin.
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The website isn't allowing me access to the "upload photo" for some reason, however, the wheels that they took off are in the back of husband's car and I will get a pix of it/them and then figure out how to upload in a different manner. There is a metal piece when looking at the wheel is on the left edge of the wheel, it is larger in the front than in the back. When the tire is spun around it catches at some point where that piece sits. It is not a grind that occurs all the way around, only at certain points during the spin.

That sounds like wheel weights to me.
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Thanks to everyone for the great support regarding my issue. I have the same grinding noise only seems to be coming from under/center front of the jeep and the steering wheel has a serious wobble on some of the roads I travel. My question is why a wobble now when I use the same roads now as I did before having the wheels replaced? The place that worked on the jeep says it must be my imagination b/c they drove it and did not hear anything or feel any wobble. Am I driving an unsafe vehicle??? Makes me wonder.
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