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Receiving 2017 Willys Unlimited in next week or two. Getting the teraflex leveling kit, however, my question is in regards to wheel spacers. 1) 1.5, 1.75 or 2? 2) other than spidertrax, are do you all trust spacers off eBay? I've found some 2" from a source in GA, however I can't contact them to ensure they are anodized. 3) at what size spacer will I need replace existing hub studs to fit the spacer?

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Old 03-02-2017, 12:18 PM
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

Spacer size is dependent on tire size. If you're sticking with the stock tires you don't need any spacer. If you're moving up to say a 35x12.5 and keeping the stock wheels then you will need 1.5" spacers.

Personally, under no circumstances would I consider buying an off brand spacer from ebay. Spend a few extra bucks, get the Spidertrax and make sure to install them properly (with a torque wrench). Saving ~$50 isn't worth the risk of a wheel spacer breaking as you're driving down the road.

Additionally, if you are going to a 35" tire and plan to offroad you'll need to do some other modifications (fenders/bump stops) to prevent rubbing with a leveling kit.
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

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I was talking to some guys in my Jeep club last night and with talking to them this is what I'm thinking.


2.5" lift, 35" tires, 1.5" spacers
I'm already planning to upgrade to the hurricane fenders.


Now I just need to figure out a good yet relatively inexpensive lift. And which one, with shocks, without shocks. Time to hit he books for more research. Thanks everyone.
What jeep club?

I think I need to find one to talk with people about upgrades and see other upgrades in person

Drive by dealer today and saw a rugged ridge jeep. I know they are overpriced but it looked great
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

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What jeep club?

I think I need to find one to talk with people about upgrades and see other upgrades in person

Drive by dealer today and saw a rugged ridge jeep. I know they are overpriced but it looked great
I'm in NOJC down in New Orleans.

Clubs are great places to get information or just a bunch of different ideas, or even help with installs.

I love seeing those types of builds. I'm actually trying to mod my 75A to be similar to the KILROY build. Just not as offroad heavy since it's also my ride to work.
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

I'd really recommend a three inch lift if you're going to be using this Jeep to do real Jeep things. Yes you may be able to get by with a two inch spacer kit to fit your tires but that's merely what you're doing, making them fit. Functionally you're missing out on articulation. BDS makes a pretty decent kit for about 800 bucks that's a three inch kit that includes shocks. You can also customize for the adjustable lower control arms. I suggest this if you use your Jeep on the interstate a lot as it allows you to get your alignment more in spec. The only other option I would recommend is a dual steering stabilizer. Again only if you use the Jeep on the road a lot. The way I look at it, if you like your Jeep why skip out on such important features to save a few bucks? Also you can look into the fox 2.0 gas charged shocks. Highly recommend them.
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

What gears do you have? To run 35's, you really need at least 3.73's and should really be running 4.10's. While you can run 3.21's, your road performance will definitely suffer.
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What gears do you have? To run 35's, you really need at least 3.73's and should really be running 4.10's. While you can run 3.21's, your road performance will definitely suffer.
Currently i've got 3.21 maybe i should consider 33's? And no lift or would I still need to lift?
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

With 33's, you may rub in the rear at full flex. A 2.5" lift won't hurt but is not necessary unless you are planning to wheel it. Teraflex makes a very good spring lift (about $500) that you can either use your factory shocks (kit with shock extensions) or put in a good aftermarket shock (I went with Bilstein 5100's). I spent about $700 on lift and shocks and about $180 for a JKS adjustable front track bar to recenter the front axle.

I ran 33's on my JK for about a year before I lifted it and 3.21's on it for a year and a half with just the aid of a Superchips FlashPaq. It's getting 4.56 gears next week which will set me up for 35's in the future.

In a JK, anything over about 3" lift will get expensive fast to do it right. 2.5" is a sweet spot and requires maybe an adjustable Track Bar in addition to a quality lift kit.

You don't need a dual steering stabilizer unless you screw up the lift. A steering stabilizer is a bandaid for other suspension issues. There is no need for adjustable control arms for s 2.5" lift on a JK. The alignment specs are still in factory limits. If you go larger than 3" now you need adjustable control arms (and NEVER use cam bolts)
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

I'm trolling this thread since I am also a newbie trying to figure out some stuff about lifts. I'm sorry for such painfully simply questions, but what does "full flex" mean and what does "planning to wheel it" mean?

Based on limited research and reading here I have done (and my limited understanding of it), I'm leaning toward a body lift (2.5") as the wife confesses that it's only for looks. What's the max size tires I should/could use with that?
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

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I'm trolling this thread since I am also a newbie trying to figure out some stuff about lifts. I'm sorry for such painfully simply questions, but what does "full flex" mean and what does "planning to wheel it" mean?

Based on limited research and reading here I have done (and my limited understanding of it), I'm leaning toward a body lift (2.5") as the wife confesses that it's only for looks. What's the max size tires I should/could use with that?
This is flexing. Wheeling just means taking it off road and doing Jeep stuff with it.
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

@pnwtoc So the lift is just for show/mall crawling. Do you plan on larger than stock wheels for your intended use? If not, then you can go with something like a 1-1.5" body lift or even a leveling kit. If you want a suspension lift as some day you may take it off road, I would recommend the Teraflex 2.5" spring lift and just get the kit with the shock extensions. You can still add a body lift to this. The suspension lift sets you up for the ability to run 33" tires with no issues as described. Lifting the body too much will change your center of gravity and could possibly make the Jeep unstable in sudden turning situations.
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Re: Newbie lift/tire questions

Not knowing my self but based on members suggestions I'd have to say that if one has the 3.21 gears a 2'' lift would the max. Unless one upgrades to either the 3.73. I'm assuming one could add an half an inch to an inch per gear ratio?

3.21 = stock - 2''
3.73 = 2'' - 3''
4.10 = 3'' - 4''

But I would suspect that other modifications like dropping/lowering other components as not to cause undue stress. As for the body lift, I think one is asking for trouble.. doesn't seem very unstable if not done correctly.
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