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Toyota FT-4X: Jeep, take notes.

The Toyota FT-4X concept car has several ideas Jeep should consider.

Toyota FT-4X Concept Photos and Info | News | Car and Driver

Ignoring the obnoxious exterior, the interior is full of innovations.

Most of all, the Wrangler should have a more mechanical, metal - not plastic - dash and other details. More like a toolbox than a cheap econo-car.

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Re: Toyota FT-4X: Jeep, take notes.

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Most of all, the Wrangler should have a more mechanical, metal - not plastic - dash and other details. More like a toolbox than a cheap econo-car.
Metal adds weight (bad for MPG) and costs way more (bad for MSRP) than plastic...
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What does the FT stand for... Fuggly Truck?
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Metal adds weight (bad for MPG) and costs way more (bad for MSRP) than plastic...
Always surprised at many people just want to say NO - I like the cheap looking plastic the way it is.

I'm looking for a unique utilitarian experience. Most cars have a lot of plastic on the dash, console and door panels. Wrangler is already super utilitarian, but surprisingly heavy. Metal interior trim would add to the experience, be more authentic and, I really doubt, would add much weight.
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Nothing like having shrapnel from your metal dash flying at you during an accident. Yeah that's smart.
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Nothing like having shrapnel from your metal dash flying at you during an accident. Yeah that's smart.
Shrapnel? Any evidence that such a thing would happen? Metal typically bends and crumples. Another automatic NO in favor cheap looking plastic.

Strangely conservative.
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Re: Toyota FT-4X: Jeep, take notes.

Have you seen a dash after a high impact crash? Do you actually think all of it will stay in tact and not fly off and cause injury to passengers? There's a reason automakers have gone to softer materials over the years and it's not just for weight savings. Maybe you should do some research.
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Have you seen a dash after a high impact crash? Do you actually think all of it will stay in tact and not fly off and cause injury to passengers? There's a reason automakers have gone to softer materials over the years and it's not just for weight savings. Maybe you should do some research.
Could be the technology exists to keep panels from "flying off."
I'm not saying edges wouldn't have to angled, radiused or padded in some way, but there's no reason flat, simple metal couldn't hold the various systems. Body-on-frame and unit-body construction incorporate crumple zones these days. Many approaches are possible.

A little imagination to solve today's liabilities is always possible. Open your mind bro!
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Re: Toyota FT-4X: Jeep, take notes.

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Could be the technology exists to keep panels from "flying off."
I'm not saying edges wouldn't have to angled, radiused or padded in some way, but there's no reason flat, simple metal couldn't hold the various systems. Body-on-frame and unit-body construction incorporate crumple zones these days. Many approaches are possible.

A little imagination to solve today's liabilities is always possible. Open your mind bro!
Says you vs. 100 plus years of engineering. I'm good brosephine.
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Re: Toyota FT-4X: Jeep, take notes.

That vehicle look hideous.
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