Originally Posted by Governor
No need in starting trouble where there is none. As my grandfather would have said you took this the looooong way around the barn and then began adding stuff we didn't know about well after the fact. No wonder folks got confused or frankly fell asleep in the middle of it. It was a confusing post that didn't have to be. Had you stated the three sentences relating to the wheels instead of all the other extraneous posts that did nothing in the way of a resolution regarding your main point we could have all saved some time and trouble. Three sentences was all you needed to state your point. It went into two pages, I don't know how many paragraphs and a pile of stuff not related to tires or wheels. Just ease up fellows we are all just trying to get to the bottom of this and that's the main point. Lets don't get it all even further side tracked with a pissing contest. All these guys work their butts off trying to be helpful to one another. It's hard to phrase the written word to have the same meaning as looking face to face someone where the crinkle of an eye or even a laugh can make all the difference. Just assume we all meant well and forget it.
Respectfully I never said or implied I expected $2,000 for Sport S wheels from the dealer. To me it is drive by to take my quote and change my $400 estimate and just change it to imply I was saying $2,000. I am talking about a way to reduce cost by a few hundred bucks. As I noted I do not have a place to keep them to craigslist them myself and once driven off the lot, leverage and newness both reduce. Because of bolt patterns, if the SS wheel is of some value at all , even 25% of price, it is a jeep dealer.
if some one wants to say: "I have tried it", or "others have tried it" or "I have worked a jeep dealership" -- "and they don't have any demand whatsoever for 17, so they are 100% worthless to them," that will be helpful to me educational to me.
That is why my title is "value difference", not price or cost difference. I know the dealer would never offer more than price or cost. Price and cost are just somewhat helpful to getting to value, knowing value will be a much lower number.
The first response I got did the numbers on one option, S Sport with 3.73, LSD and other willies options, but left out the big number -- the fact that I would have to pay $1,900 to buy 5 WW wheels online and $100 to mount balance them to get my end requirement!
the main problem is the secondary market in buying WWW (or black bear) wheels is way less than Rubicon. I have been following craglist and they are very rare. That is why I also wanted to explore this possibility