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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. From the post it seems like sparticus is typical lawyer scum. These scumbags clog up the legal system and make it hard for anyone to get anything done...they will lead to to the downfall of out country.
What grounds do you have for a lawsuit? Also, the 2014 refresh was a pretty badly kept secret; just because you were too big of a moron to figure it out doesn't give you the grounds to sue.
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This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. From the post it seems like sparticus is typical lawyer scum. These scumbags clog up the legal system and make it hard for anyone to get anything done...they will lead to to the downfall of out country.
What grounds do you have for a lawsuit? Also, the 2014 refresh was a pretty badly kept secret; just because you were too big of a moron to figure it out doesn't give you the grounds to sue.
Well I'm upset, I bought a V8 2014 Summit and the dealer didn't tell me about some newfangled diesel model, even though I put in a highly specific factory order. I expect a free summit crt, plus a bazillion dollars for the emotional distress of me making an informed decision... How dare those Detroit/Toledo Northerners!!!
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I suppose that there is an actual point here

When do dealers / salesman have an obligation to inform the customer of the upcoming model change?

It goes to the point that in Australia we were NOT informed of the change to the front chassis rails and the removal of the front recovery points
Jeep Australia cooped a caning over that and then told dealers that they had to inform customers prior to sale.

BUT in my case My sales man was not interested and had no idea of what a recovery point was and keep telling me there was a tow point

Was not until i was about to pick up the vehicle that i realized that He was a ning nong and had no idea but of course no compensation no recovery hooks provided
But he did give a quote of $585.00 fitted each side to fit the after though recovery points. It should have been provided simple fact and i should not have shelled out that sort f money for stupid Jeep Australia executive decision on reducing the chassis rails


So in a way i do see his point when is enough enough
When do we start to hold people responsible.
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

I feel the pain here. That's why I am waiting for the JGC MY21 as it's going to have a Flux-Capacitor Upgrade Pack. Now I'll never get bogged again or ever be late for an appointment. I'll be able to leave home later but arrive earlier to any of my appointments with my MY21 JGC time machine - 4X4.

You may mock me now but you just wait and see who'll be mad or kicking themselves for not waiting for the MY21!!

Besides, it'll serve you right for not paying closer attention to jeepgarage.com before you bought your Jeep! Sigh...
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

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Dude, can you even do basic math or a typical lawyer trying to create numbers to drive your own point? I bought mine for $58 and 8 months later traded it in for $48, that's only $10k lost in depreciation. Try to see what happens after 8 months to a Porsche, Mercedes, BMW or Range Rover - minimum $15k to $20k.
Basic math with fingers and toes I'm fine. After that I'm lost.

I factored in the cost difference to the 2014 model. No lawyer here "dude"...the bottom line is 8 months later you dropped an additional 16 grand on the same vehicle.

My '06, '08 & '10 averaged out to ~$6K per year. To go from the '12 to '14 is going to wind up $20K and it's only been a bit over half a year.

Something ain't right, and it's becasue of the early release killing the value.
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

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I factored in the cost difference to the 2014 model. No lawyer here "dude"...the bottom line is 8 months later you dropped an additional 16 grand on the same vehicle.
You can't have both in your argument: either it's the same vehicle and indeed there is no additional reason why the '12 and '13 should drop in value (apart from the fact that they are now used vehicles, not new, but then why bother changing?), or it's a much improved vehicle (new gearbox, etc...) and the loss of value of previous years is justified, because the newer truck is better.

As a rule, buying a new truck every 2 years will cost you money, Dguth knows it and I thought that everybody knew it. Apparently not...
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

Going forward:

-After 5 individual emails from non-SRT owners, it seems wise to include all models of the Grand Cherokee. Lots of owner distaste to what Jeep/Chrysler management has done.

-Due to ALL responses coming via email, that shall be the only form of contact for the future (to be clear, no PM).

-Lastly, Thank You to all those so far who have given me their insight, shared their ideas, shared their dealer (negative) experiences, and offered their support.

Those in this situation outweigh those cynical who post.
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

So Spartacus, am I assuming you are the "lawyer" that will be representing these fine folk in their attempt to sue for compensation between normal residual value and lost residual value? If so, then the loss or difference has to be proved... do you have evidence of the lost residual?

Also, in order to make a class action suit against Chrysler, and to make it for even a small number in the millions, it would need to be in federal court. With your time and court costs and research costs, all to go several thousand hours in round after round of getting kicked in the nuts by the army of suits that chrysler has, and all they are doing is stalling you...you will have nothing but a big debt all by yourself since you lost and nobody else has to pay a thing if you lose.

Are you actually willing to tell people that either you are the lawyer for this, or that you have a lawyer willing to take on a class action suit against Chrysler for a couple million in possible damages... and thats if you can get several thousand people to join it.

So, forget about the asinine idea of a class action, you won't have the funds or the defendants to do it.. this was simply a troll thread, albeit a fun one.

So at the end of the day, if your intention was to amuse us, mission complete. Awesome job.
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

hahahahah wait a minute.... "LOTS OF OWNERS DISTASTE WHAT JEEP MANAGMENT HAS DONE"???? then why the hell are they buying Chrysler products??? man your a joke and I literally hope you get laughed at!!!! go get a real job instead of trying to mooch of others....that's why this country is the way it is....because of scum like yourself....

lastly, your welcome for giving you my insight.
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

I wonder if Spartacus is suing his auto insurance (for lowering or increasing his policy), all food brands that he uses(for changing ingredients for the better), all fast food places he eats at(for changing the menu to keep people coming in)...etc since everything needs to be updated regardless.

You're going so sue a company because they decided, for the betterment of the company, they need to upgrade their product. FYI - your car depreciates 10-20% the minute you leave the dealer lot - KNOWN FACT.

The MY13s were KNOWN TO BE A SHORT MODEL YEAR before it was even released. Any well informed consumer (which I take it you're not) would have found that in their research.

So, anyone else here wants to file a counter-suit on Spartacus for Libel? It's only fair since he's breaking the law (which law I don't know but I'll come up with something come arraignment...frivolous litigation)

RANT: People like Spartacus it what makes the legal system in the USA good and bad. Why good? It lets anyone sue for no solid reason.
Why bad? It lets anyone sue for no solid reason.
END RANT (Sorry, I can't stand crap like this lol)

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So, forget about the asinine idea of a class action, you won't have the funds or the defendants to do it.. this was simply a troll thread, albeit a fun one.

So at the end of the day, if your intention was to amuse us, mission complete. Awesome job.
Don't you find it IRONIC his user name is Spartacus?
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Re: '12 & '13 Owners - Class action suit against Jeep

I was looking for some way to fill the last 30 minutes of my day and this has been absolutely fabulous! Thanks everyone, especially you Spartacus!
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