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Old 04-22-2016, 05:55 PM
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'14/15 Shifter Recall

Just saw this come up:

Fiat Chrysler recalls 1.1M cars, SUVs after 41 injuries

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Fiat Chrysler says it is recalling 1.1 million vehicles worldwide, including 811,586 midsize SUVs and full-size cars in the U.S., to try to alleviate confusion about when the vehicle's automatic transmission is in the "park" position, which has resulted in 41 injuries.

Drivers have been getting out of the vehicles without shifting into park while the engine is still running. The problem involves vehicles with electronic shift levers on their consoles that spring back to the same position after being shifted. Drivers can't tell by looking at the shifter's position whether it is in park. Instead, they have to depend on indicator lights, Fiat Chrysler says.

In the U.S., the recall involves certain 2012 to 2014 Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300 sedans and 2014 and 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee SUVs. The recall will include an estimated 52,144 vehicles in Canada, 16,805 in Mexico, and 248,667 elsewhere outside the U.S.

The recall results from an investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which was joined by Fiat Chrysler. It appears to have acted on complaints.

One owner in Walton, Ind., said he left his 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee running when dropping off a DVD when he thought he had pushed the shifter in the right direction. "My 23-year-old son was in the passenger seat and yelled out, 'Dad, the car is moving,'" he wrote. "I jumped back in and put my foot on the brake and watched the shift indicator as I slowly moved the shifter up so it indicated 'park.'"

The confusion also doesn't appear to be limited to shifting the vehicle into park. A driver in Rochester Hills, Mich., reported becoming confused about whether the vehicle was in reverse.

"Intending to back into my driveway, I shifted into reverse," the complaint read. "The vehicle was not in reverse and crashed into the vehicle that was parked ... across the street."

One expert, Sean Kane of Safety Research and Strategies, a firm that researches car-safety issues, says the problem involves a failure by engineers to fully anticipate all scenarios in which drivers use the shifters. In the past, automatic transmissions were mechanical, and it was easier to make sure a car was in the correct gear. Now that they are electronic, it's easier to become confused, which helps explain the accidents.

"It's a high number of injuries," Kane says. "I think it's a complete lack of human-factors engineering and a lack of built-in fail-safes."

Even though there are chimes and alert messages that sound when the driver's side door opens while the engine is running and the car is not in park, the automaker says the warnings may be insufficient. Fiat Chrysler says it will enhance the warnings and modify the settings in the transmission so the vehicle won't move under certain conditions if it is in park.
The "fix" isn't entirely clear. Did they mean to say wont move when its in drive? haha

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https://www.cars.com/articles/recall...1420684470190/

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The Fix: Dealers will enhance the warning systems and implement a new transmission-shift strategy to automatically prevent the car from moving under certain circumstances, even if the driver fails to select Park; the work will be done for free. The automaker noted that it already has begun equipping Charger and 300 sedans with a new shift-lever design as of the 2015 model year, while the Grand Cherokee's shift lever was updated for 2016.

What Owners Should Do: FCA did not immediately announce an owner-notification schedule. Owners can call the automaker at 800-853-1403 for more info.
So how can they stop a car from moving when its in R/N/P? Once the key leaves the drivers seat it shifts to Park automatically?

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Just saw this come up:

Fiat Chrysler recalls 1.1M cars, SUVs after 41 injuries

The "fix" isn't entirely clear. Did they mean to say wont move when its in drive? haha

Another site:

https://www.cars.com/articles/recall...1420684470190/

So how can they stop a car from moving when its in R/N/P? Once the key leaves the drivers seat it shifts to Park automatically?
Just take their jeeps away and don't give em back. Can't fix stupid.
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Re: '14/15 Shifter Recall

It's not like it is not lit up on the top of the shifter and on the dash telling you what gear it is in. It was awkward when we first brought her home and I told my wife to make sure you look to see what gear your in. Wonder how they will go about making it ok for dummies to use? Likely with software such as drivers door opens, instant park. Simple enough.

Anyone know how they plan to dummy proof it?
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Didn't they learn to drive? These guys would be road killer. U have to make sure your gear and cut off the engine
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Dam i would love to see those 41 drivers driving a stick shift. lol
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Re: '14/15 Shifter Recall

I haven't had any problems with mine, but I can tell you that my MB CLS 550 has the column shifter (as do many MBs) and no matter what gear you are in, when you open the door, it shifts to park.

I have gotten used to stopping at my mailbox and just opening the door to get the mail. Not a good habit for sure!
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Re: '14/15 Shifter Recall

DAMN! ive owned the jeep for nearly 3 years now and ive never had this problem. Look at the good damn indicator in the shifter!! if that's not good enough look at the dash.



seriously. im sorry for the people who died/got injured but please use your eyes/brains to figure out where it is before jumping out.
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Re: '14/15 Shifter Recall

Well I dont know how but I have the new recall software on my '14. Invoice says CSN 1 S27 Safety Recall S27 Transmission Elec Shift Lever as well as 2 PCM/TCM updates.

I need to do some more testing but it only seems to force it into P when you come to a stop in gear, open the door and let off the brake. If you open the door while rolling it doesn't put it in P. You have to stop and open a door for it to take over. Opened other doors and it doesnt put it in P.

My theory of never having to put it in P anymore doesn't work. It will still roll about a foot before forcing it in P
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