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Old 12-23-2015, 08:52 AM
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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

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Yeah, no... -2.4 was the best they could get the rears to, and Eibach doesn't open until 10am Central.

Literally, both cams are as far out as they'll go.

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There are adjustable control arms available but I'm very perplexed that you need them. Really your dealer should be taking care of this.

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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

And here we go lol exactly as I was saying when people where getting stuck on camber in another thread.

Jeeps often very often come with more camber than the spec sheet at alignment shops. These shops and or dealers need some sort of guidance to follow and it's 1.8 so that's what they do! So now anything over that is incorrect?

I mean if they did not have a guide to follow then how would they align the truck at all?

I know their are cars new with -3.0 so they track better (high HP vehicles mostly). I would have them get it the best they can and not get stuck on this # it's simply a guide to follow.
IMO I wouldn't spend a single dime to fix .04 or whatever someone's sheet is so called out this is JMO

These are high HP top heavy trucks and I don't know about anyone else but I beat the snot out of mine and don't mind 1 bit running -2.0 or even a lil more. I run no links or arms on mine and I make them again lol. This is my opinion and you may run through tires but again this is a performance vehicle and we may burn tires a year quicker vs three years of life and if I wanted to save tires I would have bought a Prius. I always say if you want to stay stock stay stock.

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POST #15 expaines what I mentoned above
Alignment after RM mid drop
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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

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This isn't the dealer that sold me the vehicle... This is a dealer with three SRT master techs on staff, and by far one of the best overall service teams I've ever seen throughout my many many many countless Jeep service visits, among the many other Jeep vehicles I've owned since I started driving.


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I hear you, but it doesn't matter who sold it to you the dealers can fight about that between themselves. It was sold to you as a new vehicle you didn't ask for a swap out of non OEM parts(that are defective), it is on jeep and their network of dealers to correct it regardless of how much they may need to spend or replace to make it happen. Having SRT techs at dealer is one thing, reporting this as an issue on the SRT line is another and often gets quick results. As I said just my opinion and I hope they get this worked out for you but it just appears you are shouldering far more of the burden getting this corrected then you should be. Personally I would have never put up with how this is unfolding on a 70k vehicle or really any vehicle but as long as you are good with how it is progressing and happy with the end result that is all that matters. Good Luck
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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

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I hear you, but it doesn't matter who sold it to you the dealers can fight about that between themselves. It was sold to you as a new vehicle you didn't ask for a swap out of non OEM parts(that are defective), it is on jeep and their network of dealers to correct it regardless of how much they may need to spend or replace to make it happen. Having SRT techs at dealer is one thing, reporting this as an issue on the SRT line is another and often gets quick results. As I said just my opinion and I hope they get this worked out for you but it just appears you are shouldering far more of the burden getting this corrected then you should be. Personally I would have never put up with how this is unfolding on a 70k vehicle or really any vehicle but as long as you are good with how it is progressing and happy with the end result that is all that matters. Good Luck
I agree 100% I would have had them put it back to stock all OEM parts it's their issue not yours PERIOD!

If you wanted to Mod later then do it but I wouln't have spent a single dime outside of my payment.
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'14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

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There is ABSOLUTELY no way the eibachs will take your rear camber out that far. Have them contact eibach. Or find someone else to align.

Even if you have the new version of the SRT springs you will be well within specifications. Hell my road magnet mids have less rear camber than that!

CLS, do you have the old kit or the revised "we figured it out, these springs won't explode, we promise" versions?


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CLS, do you have the old kit or the revised "we figured it out, these springs won't explode, we promise" versions?


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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

You should easily get them within spec. Your dealership are a bunch of morons. I've had the same thing where the dealer didn't even know how to access the full adjustment range.

Also, eibqchs are excellent quality. There is more to this story. Who knows, maybe someone tried to cut a coil and gave up. Springs don't just break like that. Not even cheap ones
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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

I'm new to this thread but...


Why the heck aren't you just having the Dealership put the FACTORY EQUIPMENT back on your vehicle?!?


You know... the equipment it was SUPPOSED to have come with?!? Why mess with aftermarket parts from the same company that produced the ones that have already failed?!?!
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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

1, I liked the look-- my SRT always looked better side-by-side up against other SRTs, and I guess I know why now- stance is better.

2, I liked the way it handled-- sounds pretentious, but I always thought mine handled better than other SRT WK2s I've driven... Now I know why.

3, these ****sticks need to own up and take responsibility for the damage they've caused my vehicle, and the expenses they've caused me. The only logical way to make that happen is by letting them replace the coils and pay for everything.

Bear in mind, the so-called "old kit" was on my vehicle. I also had 45 sidewalk tires instead of 40s, so the lack of fender clearance, I always assumed, was because of the tires- I never knew the coils were changed. That said, I don't want to lose the handling, and to be completely honest, the new springs they sent are even better, MINUS this rear alignment debacle. More on that up next...


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Re: '14 SRT, Front Suspension Collapsed?

Email from Eibach with regard to my dealer's inability to align the rear:

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...In regards to the alignment on your vehicle, I need to know what the ride heights are. Please measure all four corners, from the center of the wheel/axle straight up to the fender lip on all four corners. Do not measure to the ground. Make sure the car is on
flat level ground, preferably a garage. On our test vehicles the camber measured at -1.8 degrees, so the only way this could possibly be that much more negative would be if the rear dropped more than what is expected. When aligning the car, did the mechanic dial in the toe first and then the camber? If so it may be necessary to set the camber first and then set the toe. Due to the suspension geometry of some vehicles, adjusting toe first, will throw out the camber, so thatís another thing I would want to know in regards
to the alignment.

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Does this 'set the camber then the toe' business make any sense?


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Does this 'set the camber then the toe' business make any sense?
Yes that is totally true. You can get less camber by adjusting toe for sure. The order sounds correct as well.

With this said it sounds like you are experiencing both a greater drop than expected and poor alignment as well.

Glad to hear the new kit is better!
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