Only way I could MAYBE see the new WK2 cracking a 12 is:
A downhill dragstrip in 20 degree temps with the tires real gooey and John Force behind the wheel (even though this thing is as easy to launch as anything)
Sorry guys, so far with the info Ive seen and #s at hand, this thing seems a tad slower in a straight line. BUT thats only HALF the battle
The thing is though guys. If the WK2 SRT8 was to be around 45 - 50k no one would even care to dispute or compare it's performance as long as it's around the same numbers as the WK1 SRT8.
But at 55k base one is just wondering where that supercharger is.
Drive one. You'll see and feel the difference. We're not in Kansas any more...More like upgraded to a NY City Penthouse.
It's a killer ride and it's so much nicer it's not comparable.
Chrysler is using some fancy wording to make it appear less by taking away features that were standard in other models. In reality, it's not. A fully loaded WK2 vs a fully loaded WK1 is not cheaper.
The WK2 is by far a much better vehicle all around than the 2009. The WK2 Overland includes adjustable suspension. Decoupling a few features here and there makes up for the fact that this FAR better version is $2,600 LESS than an 09 Overland?
Oh I'm sorry quickone if my opinions bother you. My God I will think of you next time I make a remark about something to make sure I don't bitch too much.
Why don't you go make another poll to see what people think about things. You already done like 50 of them so one would think you are interested in knowing what people thinks.
Think you are making things a bit too personal, but I can't see why. Maybe you need a hobby?
There's a place to bitch and it's in the thread titled after your bitch. Not a 1/4 mile thread.
I do have a hobby, and it's called Jeeps. I'm only trying to keep things organized and the topic on point. I'm tired of hearing on every thread, about the pricing, which is irrelevant to the OP's topic.
As for the # of polls I have done, (which is maybe 6) is to see what peoples opinion is. So go post your opinion on price in there and again, not in the 1/4 mile in 13.81 thread.
As for the standard features comparison. Below are the standard features for the WK2 SRT8. I have bolded those features that are also standard on the Overland (with many standard on the Laredo in fact).
Sorry, but the price increase is not warranted. Any one who thinks they are getting some great deal needs to be aware that all they are getting is a vehicle that should be priced far lower.
As for the standard features comparison. Below are the standard features for the WK2 SRT8. I have bolded those features that are also standard on the Overland (with many standard on the Laredo in fact).
Sorry, but the price increase is not warranted. Any one who thinks they are getting some great deal needs to be aware that all they are getting is a vehicle that should be priced far lower.
18(4)0 MPH JPrimary Speedometer
20X10.0 Forged Aluminum Wheels
220 (160) Amp Alternator
230 (195)MM Rear Axle
295/45ZR20 BSW All Season Tires
3.70 Rear Axle Ratio
6.4L V8 SRT HEMI MDS Engine
Active Damping Suspension
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Perf Brakes
Black Roof Molding
Body Color Door Handles
Body Color Exterior Mirrors
Body Color Fascias w/Bright Insert
Body Color Grille
Bright Exhaust Tip
Bright Pedals
Door Parts Module
Driver & Passenger Lower LED Lamps
Dual Bright Exhaust Tips
Elec LTD Slip Differential Rr Axle
Four Wheel Traction Control
Front Suspension Damper Parts Module
Front Suspension Parts Module
Full Length Floor Console
Full Length Flr Console Prem A/Rest
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
High Perform Suspension
High Speed Engine Controller
Highline Door Trim Panel
Instrument Panel Parts Module
Leather Trim Seats w/Preferred Suede
LED Daytime Running Headlamps
Lower Bodyside Cladding
Luxury Front/Rear Floor Mats w/Logo
Performance Tuned Steering
Premium Fog Lamps
Premium Instrument Cluster w/Tach
Quadra-Trac Active On Demand 4WD
Real Carbon Fiber Interior Accents
Rear Bodycolor Spoiler
Rear Suspension Damper Parts Module
RR View Auto Dim Mirror w/Microphone
Run Flat Tires
Seat Parts Module
Speed Control
Sport Mode
SRT Track Experience
SRT8 Badge
Steering Wheel Mounted Audio Ctrls
Steering Wheel Mounted Shift Control (Overland gets Paddle Shifters?)
All this isn't worth $15K? (that was a joke)
I am not saying your getting some super deal.
But I am saying that you are getting alot for your money overall.
The Overland is a great deal.
A Mustang GT on the Ford Website prices out over $46K The GT500 over 52K.
?he SRT only items are LOW production, high cost items. The suspension in the Jeep is different from all the other SRT vehicles as it has like 4-5 modes. It is UNIQUE to the Jeep only! The drivetrain in the SRt Jeep is also different...yes the motor is the same...but do any of the other SRT's have AWD(select trac), Rear elsd and other various parts in an awd system that are UNIQUE to the Jeep SRT? I also know the SRT Jeep hood is different from the others to save weight(ie. different aluminum and process) Then theres the SRT Jeeps brakes....6 piston fronts and 4 piston rears...again...Jeep SRT ONLY!
Thats just a few examples of 2012 jeep SRT unique high cost items to purchase and develop.
Opinions and debates are healthy and potentially helpful for individuals trying to make decisions, but only to a certain degree. The constant back and forth on every thread is wearing on the forum. The WK1 SRT8 seems to be a great vehicle that was available at a great price. The WK2 appears to be a great vehicle at a price that some are happy with and others are not. The price is what it is...
Everyone should take a deep breath and work towards getting back to a collaborative forum of Jeep (and SRT8) owners and potential owners.
I would love to see a new post (in that same spirit) from a current SRT8 owner sharing details about some of their initial mods (CAI, lights, interior tricks, etc.) that they would do again if they had a new vehicle.
I Digress and apologize. I'm just tired of hearing the price issue vs compared to 2010 models.
i0r15 No harm, no foul. We agree that its a sweet Jeep. Lets leave it at that, right?
Come on now Quick, you started the poop flinging with the "get a better job so you can afford it" nonsense. Surely you realize wealthy people can make dumb financial decisions just as often as the common man.
Your perspective is hugely valuable here given your WK1SRT8 experience. Don't take that away from the board, eh?
Jeep created a kick arse vehicle that most of us would love to own, many of us can afford, and an equal if not greater number of us have concerns over both performance and price. Jeep created this scrutiny with the second sticker, not potential or existing customers.
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