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Old 09-07-2011, 09:24 PM
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Re: 2012 runs 13.81

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Truth is I drove the WK2 tonite and it was phenomenal......
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That's the problem with all the people who don't like the new WK. They are posting best review numbers on vehicles through almost 5 years of reviewers with different vehicles as different tracks, in different weather with different drivers. We're comparing one set of reviews from a "pre-production" tester that has been given out to the press to test.

So...Try to compare the same tests of the 2006, done in 2006.
You will see some very different numbers than those posting the "best of" numbers we have seen.

Here is my opinion of one vs the other regarding price and performance.

You will still have a FAST Jeep in a straight line. Maybe not faster by .2 - .5 in a quarter mile, but in the 1/2 mile...WK may be behind from what I have seen with 1/4 mile MPH.

In a course, you will be faster couple in a 60 second lap. (Average course)

You will have a much nicer Jeep as far as ride quality, interior quality, and overall everyday useability. (Space, access and egress for both front and rear passengers, towing ability)

You pay alot for this quality. I get it. You only get a marginally better performing car. I get it. The thing we fail to forget is the WK is an incredible performer. That is why we love it. So you still have an incredible performing Jeep, yet it does SO MUCH more and it does it with much more comfort. And this is one HELL of a starting point. It will only get better from here on in.
Who knows if the ECU will ever be cracked though.
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:04 PM
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Who knows if the ECU will ever be cracked though.
really? Ever?

Was the pcm built at Area 51?
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Well at least those carbon fiber trim pieces makes it worth all that extra dough...... right guys?




Man, those things save at LEAST .5lbs in weight.
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Im done projecting about these two until I see VIDEO OF THE TWO SIDE BY SIDE running through the normals tests...
I think the "which is quicker" debate will be going on for a very long time. The problem is, who will ever be able to say for certain? What criteria/tests/info would/will be used to arrive at a number or a declared winner?

The best way IMO would be to average out at least 100-150 track slips and go from there. I did this for the WK1 a couple years ago, using about 70 of my own slips and digging up every slip I could find on the net. Different drivers, different vehicles, different tracks, different times, different years, all over the country. The average for 1/4 mile was between 13.5 and 13.6. So, for me, I can comfortably and perhaps accurately state that an average stock WK1 easily pulls "mid 13's".

In all fairness to the WK2, the vehicles need to get broken in a bit before judging any track slips, and we need to see results from lots of different owners. But, I think Ralph himself pretty much answered the question for straight line performance, that they were pretty much equal. Who can prove otherwise? The challenge is on!
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Re: 2012 runs 13.81

The thing is though guys. If the WK2 SRT8 was to be around 45 - 50k no one would even care to dispute or compare it's performance as long as it's around the same numbers as the WK1 SRT8.
But at 55k base one is just wondering where that supercharger is.
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Re: 2012 runs 13.81

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The thing is though guys. If the WK2 SRT8 was to be around 45 - 50k no one would even care to dispute or compare it's performance as long as it's around the same numbers as the WK1 SRT8.
But at 55k base one is just wondering where that supercharger is.
Drive one. You'll see and feel the difference. We're not in Kansas any more...More like upgraded to a NY City Penthouse.
It's a killer ride and it's so much nicer it's not comparable.
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Drive one. You'll see and feel the difference. We're not in Kansas any more...More like upgraded to a NY City Penthouse.
It's a killer ride and it's so much nicer it's not comparable.
Many say the same about the non srt WK2. But no huge price increase there....
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Many say the same about the non srt WK2. But no huge price increase there....
Can you show me the 6.4L with MDS, the adaptive handling suspension, the HK Audio system, the custom hood?

Just accept it. Your resistance is FUTILE. This Jeep will sell no problem.

Find a better job so you can afford it and stop your Bitching.
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Can you show me the 6.4L with MDS, the adaptive handling suspension, the HK Audio system, the custom hood?

Just accept it. Your resistance is FUTILE. This Jeep will sell no problem.

Find a better job so you can afford it and stop your Bitching.
Some of us likes to ask the proctologist why he needs to push his fingers up there for a prostate exam. You not being one of them and gladly taking it is your personal way of being. Even though it will be double what you pay in the US down here. I still might get it. But if you're not allowed to ask why. Well then they'll push their fingers up their even when not necessary.
So you take it while I bitch.
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Me thinks that proctologists must be well payed, no? Plus, if anyone deserves to bitch, it's gotta be that profession.

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Me thinks that proctologists must be well payed, no? Plus, if anyone deserves to bitch, it's gotta be that profession.

This thread rocks, would read again.




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