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Old 05-08-2017, 09:10 AM
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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

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Well, it is all normal wear items and you have a lot of miles. I am doing 6K-7K miles per year on my overland, so my cost will be around 3 times less if I get SRT and drive the same way.
The only thing that will make difference compared to BMW and MB is that the maintenance is free during the warranty period. So for the same $ value vehicle the maintenance cost will be a lot less on the euro
No matter how you break it down, you have to pay to play. These Jeeps are not econoboxes, the are high performance bricks. Terrible on gas, use expensive replacement and wear parts, and demand a premium everywhere because of three little letters.

Though I assume you were well aware of all of this, since you were name dropping German brands.

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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

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Well, it is all normal wear items and you have a lot of miles. I am doing 6K-7K miles per year on my overland, so my cost will be around 3 times less if I get SRT and drive the same way.
The only thing that will make difference compared to BMW and MB is that the maintenance is free during the warranty period. So for the same $ value vehicle the maintenance cost will be a lot less on the euro
Not anymore...MB does not have the maintenance program at all and BMW dialed theirs back to 3/36. On M series vehicles, once the complimentary has expired...look out!
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2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

Audi doesn't off a prepaid maintenance program at all either, I'm sure Porsche doesn't as well. BMW at least still offers one, albeit it got cut back at the same time every model in their lineup saw a price increase.

My 3.6 and 5.7 WK2's have both been double to triple the cost of maintenance (between 3 different dealers) than our 4Runner, Explorer Sport, Tahoe & Suburban and my mom's Escalade she use to have. Shocking that even the "rental car" 3.6 isn't even that cheap to maintain.

Come to think of it, doesn't Toyota offer pre paid maintenance as well? It's like 2yr/24k miles. GM does now too, since like 2014.
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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

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No matter how you break it down, you have to pay to play. These Jeeps are not econoboxes, the are high performance bricks. Terrible on gas, use expensive replacement and wear parts, and demand a premium everywhere because of three little letters.

Though I assume you were well aware of all of this, since you were name dropping German brands.
Sure is pay to play. But that's with every car we all buy to also have fun with.
If we do not go crazy to mod everything and drive stock I do not think is that bad. My older 2004 Overland gets 14MPG at the best. That's almost like the SRT, just premium vs mid grade. Swap tires with non run flats and that's very normal price for SUV tire. Oil change is not $350 like on Porsche. Its all about SPG. I'm sure it will be more $ to run it compared to WK2 Overland, but it will be more fun. Just this new name Trackhawk sounds like $40K Trailhawk and almost the same logo. Why, why, why
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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

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At 85,000 miles this is what I roughly spent not on mods but normal wear and tear.

$18,000 on gas, $8,000 on tires (5 sets) and $1600 in rotors (3 sets), $800 in brake pads (3 sets), $1200 in oil changes (12) in less than 5 years....


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Your figures are excessive or you're getting ripped off.

-$18,000 on gas in 85,000 miles implies less than 15 MPG and/or $3 per gallon of fuel. I average 16-17 MPG and fuel typically stays under $3 per gallon here in Ohio for 93.
-$8,000 on 5 sets of tires would be $1,600 a set... are you buying those shitty run flats or getting taken at the tire shop? Any other decent set of tires will cost half that.
-$1,600 on rotors is about right, but 3 sets in that many miles seems excessive unless you hammer the brakes.
-$800 on 3 sets of brake pads? Come on. You can get F/R sets for under $100 and change them yourself easily in under 2 hours.
-Paying $100 for an oil change is ridiculous. You can get Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and the Viper SRT filter for about $65 total and DIY or pay someone $10-$20 to use your supplies and still come out ahead.

You must enjoy keeping the dealer service department in business.
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2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

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Your figures are excessive or you're getting ripped off.

-$18,000 on gas in 85,000 miles implies less than 15 MPG and/or $3 per gallon of fuel. I average 16-17 MPG and fuel typically stays under $3 per gallon here in Ohio for 93.
-$8,000 on 5 sets of tires would be $1,600 a set... are you buying those shitty run flats or getting taken at the tire shop? Any other decent set of tires will cost half that.
-$1,600 on rotors is about right, but 3 sets in that many miles seems excessive unless you hammer the brakes.
-$800 on 3 sets of brake pads? Come on. You can get F/R sets for under $100 and change them yourself easily in under 2 hours.
-Paying $100 for an oil change is ridiculous. You can get Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and the Viper SRT filter for about $65 total and DIY or pay someone $10-$20 to use your supplies and still come out ahead.

You must enjoy keeping the dealer service department in business.

Not getting ripped off, just drive it as it's meant to be driven, four seasons, daily driver.

-$18,000 on gas in 85,000 miles implies less than 15 MPG and/or $3 per gallon of fuel. I average 16-17 MPG and fuel typically stays under $3 per gallon here in Ohio for 93.

I usually get 12-14 miles per gallon, usually drive in sport mode and lots of starts and stops and lots of extremes.....also use paddle shifters all the time.

-$8,000 on 5 sets of tires would be $1,600 a set... are you buying those shitty run flats or getting taken at the tire shop? Any other decent set of tires will cost half that.

Again, only one set of non runflats (BFG KDW2 and there is no comparison period in terms of performance. Runflats handle way better, PERIOD. Also had two sets of dedicated pirelli snows. I won't compromise tires with price. There is a reason OEM tires are runflats. Full disclosure, i am lowered so I have more wear as specs are slightly off most of the time. Inner tire wear usually gets the tires before wear bars are worn centrally.


-$1,600 on rotors is about right, but 3 sets in that many miles seems excessive unless you hammer the brakes.

YES. Brembos were meant to be hammered.

-$800 on 3 sets of brake pads? Come on. You can get F/R sets for under $100 and change them yourself easily in under 2 hours.

I replaced mine with OEM pads because they work the best IMO but they create a lot of brake dust. Also, I could do them myself but rather pay someone else, my two hours of time more than covers cost of someone else to do them for me.

-Paying $100 for an oil change is ridiculous. You can get Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and the Viper SRT filter for about $65 total and DIY or pay someone $10-$20 to use your supplies and still come out ahead.

Again, see my previous reply. To each their own.



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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

Some folks got great deals on their Night Editions. I paid $100 over invoice for my 2016 Velvet red and thought that was a good deal until I read this thread!
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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

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Your figures are excessive or you're getting ripped off.

-$18,000 on gas in 85,000 miles implies less than 15 MPG and/or $3 per gallon of fuel. I average 16-17 MPG and fuel typically stays under $3 per gallon here in Ohio for 93.
-$8,000 on 5 sets of tires would be $1,600 a set... are you buying those shitty run flats or getting taken at the tire shop? Any other decent set of tires will cost half that.
-$1,600 on rotors is about right, but 3 sets in that many miles seems excessive unless you hammer the brakes.
-$800 on 3 sets of brake pads? Come on. You can get F/R sets for under $100 and change them yourself easily in under 2 hours.
-Paying $100 for an oil change is ridiculous. You can get Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and the Viper SRT filter for about $65 total and DIY or pay someone $10-$20 to use your supplies and still come out ahead.

You must enjoy keeping the dealer service department in business.


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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

if anybody is worried about the cost of maintenance and general wear and tear on a car that costs 60-80 grand I just don't think you should be buying this jeep. I mean it comes with the territory. And stop taking the damn thing to the stealership, you will pay 3x.
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Re: 2016 Loaded Night Edition for $55k..ouch!!

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Your figures are excessive or you're getting ripped off.

-$18,000 on gas in 85,000 miles implies less than 15 MPG and/or $3 per gallon of fuel. I average 16-17 MPG and fuel typically stays under $3 per gallon here in Ohio for 93.
-$8,000 on 5 sets of tires would be $1,600 a set... are you buying those shitty run flats or getting taken at the tire shop? Any other decent set of tires will cost half that.
-$1,600 on rotors is about right, but 3 sets in that many miles seems excessive unless you hammer the brakes.
-$800 on 3 sets of brake pads? Come on. You can get F/R sets for under $100 and change them yourself easily in under 2 hours.
-Paying $100 for an oil change is ridiculous. You can get Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and the Viper SRT filter for about $65 total and DIY or pay someone $10-$20 to use your supplies and still come out ahead.

You must enjoy keeping the dealer service department in business.
Totally agree with this even though I already read his reply. Excessive amount of part replacement and costs.

Not to mention, most Jeep dealers now have synthetic oil changes for $49.99 + $6 or so extra per quart of oil. My dealer cost to change is cheaper than doing it myself. And I'm not paranoid like so many others, if the engine goes boom I have a receipt they did the work with "OEM fluids."
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