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Old 01-09-2015, 10:44 AM
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22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

Wheel gurus. I need your opinion.

I've recently placed an order with Strasse wheels for a set of 1-pc forged monoblock wheels. 22 x 10.5. They called me last night and said that the monoblock 10.5 will not clear the caliper. The only way to clear it is with an 11" rim. The only way to run an 11" rim with a monoblock and guaranteed no rub is to run a 285/40 which I refused to do. They look way too skinny for my taste. So too my knowledge no one has run an 11" monoblock wheel on 305s for our rigs. If I do run an 11" it will be an "extreme fitment".

I know a 3-piece 11 will clear it no problem because they can toy with the dimensions a lot easier.

At this point I refuse to go back to a 3-piece. As light as my Iforged were, they still slowed the Jeep down. I was in denial at first but after going back to the stocks I can testify that they definitely slowed it.

I have an Eibach drop (.8/1.1) with no plans to go lower and I'm running a fair amount of negative camber. (-2.0 front and -1.4/1.8 rear)

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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

What's the offset on both sets an also where is it going to rub the tire or the brake calaber?
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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

On a wheel that wide and a sidewall that short and stiff there is no way a 285 would fit on an 11" rim. I was once a manager of wheel centre for 5yrs and I would be very careful of buying from anyone that tries to persuade you that way. As for the three piece making the srt slower ,I think you must be dreaming or the actual tyre was cheap and nasty as on a vehicle of this size and weight and with the torque these things produce you could drop 200kg and barely notice any difference,especially considering the run flats are super heavy already.


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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

Only thing I can suggest is a small spacer between the disc/hub and the wheel itself. Only thing is you may have to install longer wheel studs.



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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

^ These wheels aren't built yet so I'm considering my options

For your edification:

1. I would never run a 285 on an 11" rim, or a 10.5, or a 10. But that's me
2. There is a fad called "stretch and poke" that is very dangerous and very common. People will stretch a 265 on a 12" rim. So yes it is done. Mainstream tire shops won't do it but specialty shops will
3. heavier wheels will in fact slow our rigs down. It doesn't matter if you have 1000ft lbs of torque. It's physics. Rotating mass is exponentially more detrimental to performance per lb than overall weight. 10lb of extra rotating mass per corner (40lbs total) will affect your performance a lot more than a 300lb passenger will. I had stock wheels, then I had light weight 3 piece, then I went back to stock. I can say with absolute certainty that 3 piece slowed me down.
3.a. Furthermore, the further the added weight is from the center, the bigger the impact. All of a 3-piece's extra weight is the farthest out from the center. You have a bunch of bolts holding the wheels together. The monoblocks I'm looking at are 5lbs lighter per corner over a comparable 3-piece, and the reduction is at the most significant point

A 305/35 PIrelli is what I ran before and what I will run again. Believe it or not it is slightly heavier than the 295 OEM runflat

At this point I'm probably going to cancel my order until I can find a company whose monoblock profile can clear our calipers with a 10.5" rim. I'm really starting to get frustrated with the Jeep and SRT in general. Mopars have always been notoriously difficult and expensive to get parts for period. But this WK2 SRT takes the cake. Short of a SC system "performance" mods do nothing. Even when I go full custom I still have limited options to what wheels I can get. It's annoying not being able to do anything to these.
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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

With what you are saying I'm assuming your going to be racing this thing then? Otherwise I think your being a little pedantic about the whole thing. This is NOT a lotus Elise were talking about here it's a 2200kg behemoth. Just wondering where your getting your info on your tyre weight too cos I have the same 305 pirellis on my car and when I had both tyres off (and brand new) they not only felt heavier but the run flats felt almost twice as much so. My suggestion is to find the wheel you like and compensate for the added weight by adding more power either through exhaust , forced induction ect.
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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

I race all day every day. For pinks

And I called Discount Tire and they gave me the weights
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Wheel gurus. I need your opinion.

I've recently placed an order with Strasse wheels for a set of 1-pc forged monoblock wheels. 22 x 10.5. They called me last night and said that the monoblock 10.5 will not clear the caliper. The only way to clear it is with an 11" rim. The only way to run an 11" rim with a monoblock and guaranteed no rub is to run a 285/40 which I refused to do. They look way too skinny for my taste. So too my knowledge no one has run an 11" monoblock wheel on 305s for our rigs. If I do run an 11" it will be an "extreme fitment".

I know a 3-piece 11 will clear it no problem because they can toy with the dimensions a lot easier.

At this point I refuse to go back to a 3-piece. As light as my Iforged were, they still slowed the Jeep down. I was in denial at first but after going back to the stocks I can testify that they definitely slowed it.

I have an Eibach drop (.8/1.1) with no plans to go lower and I'm running a fair amount of negative camber. (-2.0 front and -1.4/1.8 rear)
I almost ordred a set of 22 monoblock wheels from them 6 months ago. They swore up and down that I would be able to run 305's no problem. I searched and searched and had trouble finding wheels. Try brixton forged. Chad from blackops said he can have a set made.
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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

A-Kon, I hate to keep kicking the horse but I think you need to go with "Nichie Wheels" it's a proven company an since you have your family in the car you can't cheapen and have what almost to you again! My 2cents.
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A-Kon, I hate to keep kicking the horse but I think you need to go with "Nichie Wheels" it's a proven company an since you have your family in the car you can't cheapen and have what almost to you again! My 2cents.

One guy on here told me the fitment wasn't good on them.


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Re: 22 X 11 w/ 305/35 Monoblock - Will it Fit?

Chad (Black Ops Autoworks) has been advising me. He is the one who mentioned Strasse as a possibility. He's also offered to custom cut me wheels. His reputation precedes him and I have no doubt he will deliver HRE quality for a fraction of the price.

The only issue is I am a very hard headed person and I'm still stuck on a big name wheel brand. I've tried to justify it but in the end there is no rational explanation. Niche were the original wheels I wanted. This goes back to before I even purchased my Jeep. There was a black SRT on ebay with a set of 21s. They fit perfect. When it came down to it I took a deal on IForged and as we all now know it didn't exactly work out. I was prepared to order a set of Niche but then I heard about their overly aggressive offset/fitment. I ran a +38 on the rear with my IForged and didn't like how they sort of stuck out. When I looked up Niche monoblocks for our bolt pattern the available offsets listed for us were +15 and +35. It's risky with custom wheels and what looks great to one person is a nightmare for another.

I still may order wheels from Chad although I'm not sure if he still wants my order given my luck lol. For now I'm going to pursue the Niche and see what offsets they can do on a monoblock. i know Chad has Niche so I'd prefer to do business with him.
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