Originally Posted by mjw930
IMHO the new SRT8 will be better in every aspect than the old SRT8 unless the only metric you care about is traveling 1/4 or 1/8 mile at a time.
I can think of nothing about the new one that the old one did better but that's probably because I could care less what it's 1/4 mile time is.
I agree. And this is what it REALLY comes down to. When a car mfg like JEEP goes out and makes a second gen of a successful platform, they're thinking, how can we IMPROVE on the big flaws. They base this on a lot of FEEDBACK, mostly from forums and things like this, take jeepgarage for instance. Thats half the reasons these forums are around Id bet nowadays anyway, makes mfg R&D department guys jobs A LOT easier in that research aspect.
So with that, the Jeeps MAIN complaints were the interior (besides nice seats) and the towing or lack there of. You'd be surprised how many owners custom rigged or bought aftermarket tow kits because its still a JEEP no matter what. It needs to tow and thats an indisputable fact no matter what sector its in. If it cant tow that will limit sales and thats a fact! So as a business move they made it tow. The opportunity cost was the cool "looking" exhaust but thats what it was, a look. Towing is a functional thing so that is immediately > the looks of it. So from an exhaust loves standpoint, the Jeeps sucks but from a lot of owners/feedback standpoint, the towing is well worth the tradeoff, only time will tell though.
So again, it comes back to business, they have to make a car/truck/suv that suits THEIR MARKET to the best ability while maintaing improvements over the last gen. That may mean small changes it may mean an overhaul, in this case it was more of an overhaul while keeping some core aspects the same. Like performance needs to remain #1 and it does with the given power graph. Also needs to have the comforts everyone wanted inside/out, got that. The last big thing I think was the technology change. The old Jeep was on pa but towards the end of its run, 09-10 it was WAY OUTDATED as far as technology features went. To some it not important to some it is, but a car needs to remain with the times to be successful, another business fact an auto mfg cannot deny. So now were up to date with some room to breath imo.
In general though everything was improved the only two small gripes I have are the wheels, the rear fascia, and the exhaust bothers me. BUT that said, those small things that WILL NOT stop me from buying a completely refined beast of a Jeep. If it would then I was never that interested in the first place. The guys who like it and have the means will buy it, flawed or not. Thats what "modding is for" Where do people thing it came from? Ohh I like this car honey, with some small changes it could be really nice, maybe Ill do this or this. I dont know any car that couldn't be modded, do you? Some look better than others out of the gate but still, something can ALWAYS be improved! If they were going to buy it originally they will now, I dont think anyone was really swayed by anything when it came out because looks or not, the main flaws were addressed, its is up to date with the market/times, and overall it lost nothing but a rear center exhaust. Not to mention the 50 page features list
I can go on and one but you get the idea haha. Its a way better truck and that = good. Ill take one, pending the price is right
Once the truck is OFFICIALLY TESTED, we can talk times and #'s at the track. I know plenty well its good enough for me on the street, anything 450hp+ or more on the street is huge! But for now, everyone comments are bs and hold no weight. Dyno #s are spot on so far. If its slower its slower, but as Ive explained above, if that SMALL flaw is enough to stop you from buying, you were never getting it in the first place . . . OR, you're an idiot