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Old 06-20-2016, 07:56 PM
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I just don't understand this shit sometimes. How do you not know your car is in neutral? And if your car is moving when you get out of it shouldn't that be a clue?

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I just don't understand this shit sometimes. How do you not know your car is in neutral? And if your car is moving when you get out of it shouldn't that be a clue?
I thought the same, but as someone in one of the other treads suggested, maybe hill start assist had held the car for a few seconds as he got out.

It's sad, but his park brake should have been applied on a hill like that, you can't rely on the transmission to hold the car.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:14 PM
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

Yay more bad press..

if you idiot proof everything the world will make a better idiot.

I always Apply the Parking brake then Park it takes the strain of the parking paw.

Ever park up hill and put your car into reverse and hear a loud clunk? Bingo.

User fault not owners.. Sad but his lack of judgement.

Must be Jeep owners BMW and Others have same shifter No recalls or Hearing about people being ran over must be a smarter crowd..

I believe ZF designed the shifter correct? why not push blame to them for providing it to us..
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:38 PM
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I thought the same, but as someone in one of the other treads suggested, maybe hill start assist had held the car for a few seconds as he got out.

I don't believe hill start is active if you're not in drive.



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I don't believe hill start is active if you're not in drive.



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HSA Activation Criteria

The following criteria must be met in order for HSA to activate:

• Vehicle must be stopped.
• Vehicle must be on a 6% (approximate) grade or greater hill.
• Gear selection matches vehicle uphill direction (i.e., vehicle facing uphill is in forward gear; vehicle backing uphill is in REVERSE gear). HSA will work in REVERSE and all forward gears when the activation criteria have been met.

The system will not activate if the vehicle is placed in NEUTRAL or PARK.
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Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

Exactly so theoretically if the jeep was in neutral, it should have immediately begun rolling backward on release of the brake.

That should have been enough of a cue that the vehicle wasn't in park. Sounds like user error but jeep is already taking the hit for this in the media.


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Good point, the mystery deepens. Maybe the park brake was engaged, and it started slipping, so he tried to catch it..... ???
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

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Spoke to my service adviser in regards to this open recall. 3 hours he says to properly download/upload new software. Anyways taking it in tomorrow. I've never had an issue with this but can see how others can get confused with the shifter. Especially if they are in a rush.
3 hours to make it beep louder and add a larger warning on the EVIC ?
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3 hours to make it beep louder and add a larger warning on the EVIC ?

Yeah I suppose. Your guess is as good as mine??


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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

not defending the time but they r doing 4 flashes and they usually get .5 hr ish per flash from FCA so that's about right....
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

1. Hardly anyone uses the park brake 100% of the time even on hills. Come on now guys you can't expect someone to do that every time they park on any kind of incline/decline.
2. There has been at least 4-5 times in the 8 months I've owned my 2015 that I've thought I was in one gear but I was actually in another. I'm not stupid, lazy, careless, etc. It's simply a poorly designed shifter and something like this was bound to happen.
3. I repeat, you don't have to be an idiot to shift this car into the wrong gear. It's a bad design.
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... Come on now guys you can't expect someone to do that every time they park on any kind of incline/decline.
Smarter, more experienced drivers will do this 100% of the time, no exceptions.
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