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Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

As soon as I read the details on Yahoo, I thought "****. I bet it was a Grand Cherokee".

Sure enough, TMZ had more info.

Anton Yelchin, Death Scene Photos (PHOTO GALLERY) | TMZ.com


I hope it wasn't a '14-15....FCA has complied with the NTHSA and are rolling out that software update. Damn shame if a simple software upgrade could have saved this kid's life.

*UPDATE*

It was a 2015

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/anton-ye...le-police-say/

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Who leaves a car in N intentionally at the top of the hill to then walk behind it? Nobody....
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

Unless the driver thought he was in P when he was really in N.
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

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Unless the driver thought he was in P when he was really in N.
that's not intentionally being in N...
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

Interesting ad, while looking at Jeep death scene photos...
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

Sad loss, was the park brake applied, people are too lazy to apply the park/emergency brake and rely too much on the transmission
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

they only say in N and rolled backwards down hill so basically no parking brake applied which makes no sense anyway just put it in P...whatever
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

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Sad loss, was the park brake applied, people are too lazy to apply the park/emergency brake and rely too much on the transmission
Yes, very sad, but very preventable. I'm sure lawyers will try and blame a vehicle malfunction, but it's clearly the driver's fault. If you exit a running vehicle, especially on a steep hill, the FIRST thing you do it set the e-brake, and then put the vehicle in Park.
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

Since the GC ZF (FCA) shifter debate (ZF because they designed it), emerged a number of months ago and with all that went with that, I've always wanted to ask this question from the US members of this site and Milous with his post just now, has just made me want to ask it even more. (I may offend some members because it goes to the heart of how you learnt to drive).

My question is - Why is the Park Brake considered an Emergency brake (e-brake) and where did this concept come from?

How did a 'Park Brake' become an 'E (emergency) Brake' in the US? What even is an E-brake?

There is nowhere in any vehicle operators manual that I have owned, be that Holden, Subaru, Ford, Mazda or Jeep (both Austrian and US built), that the park brake is referred to as an Emergency Brake.

It is the Park Brake.

When you start going for your drivers licence in New Zealand or Australia, the Park Brake and what it is used for is hammered into you from the get-go. It is a natural reaction to probably 99.9% of all drivers down-under to apply the park brake when the vehicle is stopped and placed in P.

It is reiterated throughout all manufacturers operators manuals.

How did owners of vehicles driving in the US change this concept and more to point why? And Milous, I'm not having a go at you, but your very reference to it being an e-brake, tells me that the problem is well entrenched.

Putting a vehicle in Park and activating the Park brake is not an emergency situation. It's just what you do. It should never be referred to as an e-brake because it isn't.

It's the Park Brake. It doesn't matter whether you're on the flat or not - put the vehicle into Park and pull it with your hand, push it with your foot, or flick it up with your finger (my KL with it's electronic park brake) but put your park brake on. It's not an emergency - it's just parking.
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Re: Actor Anton Yelchin killed by Grand Cherokee in Neutral

Guy like him must be WK2, damn, that's must be somehow one of the dumbest way to suicide
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... And Milous, I'm not having a go at you, but your very reference to it being an e-brake, tells me that the problem is well entrenched.
"e-brake" is also a term used for "electronic brake", as many vehicles now are moving away from the foot or hand parking brakes.

There have been a numbers of posts over the years discussing the use of the "e-brake" or "Parking Brake". I am always surprised at how many people do NOT use it (!!). For myself it's been a lifetime habit, I use the brake every single time I park, hill or no hill, without even thinking about it.

As far as calling it an "emergency brake", is really is that too, and very important that drivers realize this as well. It always cracks me up when watching a movie scene where a car is barreling down a mountain and the driver presses the brake pedal and the pedal goes to the floor - the driver makes no attempt to apply the e-brake/Park brake whatsoever, even though initially the vehicle is not going all that fast.
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It always cracks me up when watching a movie scene where a car is barreling down a mountain and the driver presses the brake pedal and the pedal goes to the floor - the driver makes no attempt to apply the e-brake/Park brake whatsoever, even though initially the vehicle is not going all that fast.
Sure glad you weren't directing those movies. They would be very dull.

But for the real world, you are right.

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