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#1 ·
Can the traction control system, (i.e. computer nanny) be completely turned off in the WK1/Wk2?

Or does it automatically turn back on if it senses drifting or changes in slip angle?
 
#4 ·
I'm not sure, but I believe it definitely makes the vehicles a lot more squirrely. The one MAJOR rule of the SRT Track Experience is the ESP must NEVER be turned off when you drive. They know if it is, and if you do it, you are done for the day. They said it is the only way you can be booted from the experience. They have a stellar safety record (no crashes) and want to keep it that way (plus it is required by the bean counters for them to do the Event).
 
#5 ·
I asked the pro in the drive with them at the end and they said there is no way they can tell...But if they do find out, you will get booted. It's a bit of a scare tactic, but holds truth. There is no alarm that they have that tells when you take it off or anything like that.

However, I recall in some early video of Ralph Gilles saying you can completely turn off the traction control. But....I'll believe it when I see it. (Hopefully on Sept 7th) :D
 
#7 ·
Not all the cars have the plugin camera and its just that, a camera. One is pointing at your face and one is pointing forward from the rearview mirror. If they were transmitting live you wouldn't need a USB flash drive either. I think if anything, they can just see and hear how the car/suv is cornering and accelerating. They see and hear them run almost every day.
However, I did personally see a forum member on here go totally sideways. In a 300 srt8 with traction control on. He may have been into the wall if it wasn't on.

Sary fir typoos .....tuochscrwens Sock!
 
#8 ·
However, I did personally see a forum member on here go totally sideways. In a 300 srt8 with traction control on. He may have been into the wall if it wasn't on.

Thanks for your kindness but you could have revealed the identity. :lol:

:D


That quite possibly could have happened.

What can I say, I'm a AWD, 1/4 mile, kind of guy. LOLOLOL
 
#10 ·
I won the autocross not only for our day....but had the lowest time of all 4 days this past June in Englishtown :) And of course, I pulled it off in the Jeep ;) After watching the pro's, my time was about .4 seconds slower than when they were taking the spectators for their rides.

Anyway...back to the original topic...
 
#12 ·
I think the reason they want the ESP on at the SRT experience is because they assume the average driver has no car control skills whatsoever, thus they want the computer on.....

Having the ESP off takes the driving experience to a whole new level..... you just have to make sure you don't hit any walls since the computer is not there to save you......:)

QuickOne, nice video, can't wait to run with you!
 
#13 ·
I think the reason they want the ESP on at the SRT experience is because they assume the average driver has no car control skills whatsoever, thus they want the computer on.....

Having the ESP off takes the driving experience to a whole new level..... you just have to make sure you don't hit any walls since the computer is not there to save you......:)
Exactly Doc.
There's only a couple of roundy-roundy guys on here so I'll be keen to hear what you find.

FWIW, my 5.7 litre WK1 stability control only "sleeps", it's never completely off.
I found this at 75mph on hard packed sand while attempting to swing it on the lock stops, the damned thing would kick the brakes in to try and straighten it.
* Note, this only happened when I think the vehicle sense a roll over was on the cards. If I kept it under the "extreme" slip angle it seemed quick happy to slide.
It also didn't return to "on", it merely temporarily tried to "get me out of trouble". probably not a bad feature if and when you were to really get it all wrong. haha :)
 
#15 · (Edited)
The base WK2 ESP cannot be fully turned off, even though Sport mode shows it being off on the dash indicator light. The sand drivers complain about this on the WK2 forum. I'm still not used to ESP kicking in even during winter conditions and intentional drifts, though for most drivers it works to straighten the vehicle when she breaks loose. It sure would be nice to have the option to fully disable it but likely not gonna happen.

Boston, hopefully the SRT8 has a better option for the rounders, though perhaps Track setting means straightline?
 
#17 · (Edited)
On the WK1 when you hit the button..... it turns off 70% of the traction control leaving you 30%. On the WK2.... I was told by an engineer I talked to at LX & Beyond, the WK2 can fully be defeated and he showed me how. You have to be in TRACK mode and hold the button down for a few seconds. That will FULLY kill the traction control system. It can only be done in TRACK mode.
 
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