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Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

Guys,

I'd like to lower my Jeep a tad. I'm 5'10" and in and out of it all day long and want to lower it for the comfort of getting in/out.

I come from Audis and BMWs were lowering by putting springs on stock shocks was considered ghetto.

The ride could be a bit bouncy and stock shocks would wear prematurely.

Is that the same here or does our adaptive suspension solve these problems when lowered on springs?




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Old 06-02-2015, 09:24 AM
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

Go with the RM mid drop. Even drop all the way around, with a stock like ride. No shock or coilovers required
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Old 06-02-2015, 09:44 AM
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

Most drops on the Jeeps are "tasteful" for a lack of better term. Most VW's and Audi's drop to where they are an inch off the ground and no suspension travel. Like it was stated, get the Road Magnet mid drop, levels it out and keeps the stock ride and gives you improved handling.
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:34 AM
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

Yes and no. Air bags are very ghetto if they are "slammable". Now if it's minor adjustments and enhances the performance then they are ok. Helper air bags being a good example. Now the Accurair systems? The worst most ghetto thing you can do to our Jeeps. Popular in California though, but they also have the crappiest mods around. Think West Coast Customs.

IMO a slammed SUV is ghetto. Tastefully lowered no. RM mids is as low as you can go. There are some nice people that I talk to off of the forums with RM Extremes, so it's not a personal attack, but yes they are ghetto. And by ghetto I mean, styles made popular in the ghettos, or things that appeal to ghetto people.

Excessive negative camber, stretched tires, etc. fall into the "rice" category, which is a different type of ghetto.
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

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Yes and no. Air bags are very ghetto if they are "slammable". Now if it's minor adjustments and enhances the performance then they are ok. Helper air bags being a good example. Now the Accurair systems? The worst most ghetto thing you can do to our Jeeps. Popular in California though, but they also have the crappiest mods around. Think West Coast Customs.

IMO a slammed SUV is ghetto. Tastefully lowered no. RM mids is as low as you can go. There are some nice people that I talk to off of the forums with RM Extremes, so it's not a personal attack, but yes they are ghetto. And by ghetto I mean, styles made popular in the ghettos, or things that appeal to ghetto people.

Excessive negative camber, stretched tires, etc. fall into the "rice" category, which is a different type of ghetto.
Exactly...I was at the dealer a couple weeks ago and there was a WK2 SRT on the extremes with 22's....really ruined the look of the Jeep in my opinion.
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

^ I kept thinking my eibachs sat too high until I rode in another car while my friend drove it last weekend. It sits plenty low. Also, the Jeep squats down so much when you accelerate it looks funny without enough rake. Any thoughts I had of doing RM Mids went out the window when I saw it driving.
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

I should have been more clear. I'm not saying the drop height/look is ghetto. I'm referring to the method - slapping in shorter springs while leaving the shocks.

For example, I have an old e36 BMW. I put in H&R Sport springs, but I also matched them with Bilstein Sport shocks.
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I should have been more clear. I'm not saying the drop height/look is ghetto. I'm referring to the method - slapping in shorter springs while leaving the shocks.

For example, I have an old e36 BMW. I put in H&R Sport springs, but I also matched them with Bilstein Sport shocks.
I see. Well my comment still stands. But to address your true question, my opinion is the opposite is ghetto. Putting coil overs/new shocks in a high end luxury sport SUV is ghetto. The shorter springs is quite acceptable.

And to prove my point further, I cringe at the thought of guys putting Eibachs (H&R, etc, etc) on Vipers, etc. because they cannot afford the proper coil over setup. I would NEVER put lowering springs on a sports car, only coil overs. I would also NEVER put air shocks or coil overs on an SUV.

Cliff Notes: Lower springs are the only option for a sport SUV.
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

I don't have any direct experience with Jeeps, Audi's, etc. Using lowering springs on other vehicles, such as my Chevy Blazer, changes the geometry of the suspension and makes the ride even more harsh. Going with spindles keeps the stock geometry and shocks, keeping the ride quality better.

If you're even having this internal discussion, go with the best kit you can afford or you may regret your decision and change it out later.
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

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Yes and no. Air bags are very ghetto if they are "slammable". Now if it's minor adjustments and enhances the performance then they are ok. Helper air bags being a good example. Now the Accurair systems? The worst most ghetto thing you can do to our Jeeps. Popular in California though, but they also have the crappiest mods around. Think West Coast Customs.

IMO a slammed SUV is ghetto. Tastefully lowered no. RM mids is as low as you can go. There are some nice people that I talk to off of the forums with RM Extremes, so it's not a personal attack, but yes they are ghetto. And by ghetto I mean, styles made popular in the ghettos, or things that appeal to ghetto people.
Wow, all this coming from a guy with a lowered SUV with 22's and limo tint

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I come from Audis and BMWs were lowering by putting springs on stock shocks was considered ghetto.

The ride could be a bit bouncy and stock shocks would wear prematurely.
I had a BMW for a while too. I'd say most guys on the forums had lowering springs without swapping out shocks. Only reason I swapped the shocks on my 335 was because one was bent and needed replacing.

Most lowering springs don't drop the vehicle enough to affect shock length/travel and many of them aren't wayyyy stiffer than the stock springs, so they are still matched with the 'sport tuned' shocks that come on the vehicle.

Besides, who says H&R springs and Bilstein shocks are compatible/matched? Neither company works with the other and the consumers generally don't know the spring/damping rates when they purchase this stuff.
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

There are no aftermarket coilover setups because of the ADS. Springs are the only option. There aren't even options for a shorter shock. Springs are all you have on a WK2. That being said, just don't go cutting coils to get lower, buy springs designed for the purpose.
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Re: Are lowering Springs Ghetto?

I put ebaichs on my 630rwhp CTS-V. I must be ghetto. My SRT is my tall vehicle


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