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CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

Pic of the hood in question CFR EDITION!!!










Prices:
999 Fiberglass
1199 Carbon top Fiberglass inner
1499 Full Carbon Top and Bottom/Inner

All prices above will be plus 200.00 flat rate shipping anywhere in the USA.

Canada Aussy,UAE and anywhere else you will have to email me for a quote

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Let me take some shipping confusion out and try to address all international shipping quotes in one general post.

UAE sees 700-900 freight
Aussy sees about the same ^
Canada 240-280

All hoods are considered freight we do not use UPS or Fed Ex they are just crazy high priced 1,000+++ just for shipping with them. Please don't ask me to quote with them as it's waste of time trust me I've been doing this a long time LOL. Even if you get a discount with your company it don'tt work trust me been their done that it don't work even with the biggest corporate discounts.

The hood boxes are large 72x68x8 and once packed they weigh 55 pounds. Their is no real cheap way they get us dimensionally not by weight the dimensions in a shipping calculator estimate these boxes at 200+ pounds so this is the reason for the high prices.

I quote with 3-4 different companies I found over the past 7 years and use the best quote possible. We do not sell shipping and in fact if a quote comes in at 748 I typically round down to 725.00 in order to get the sale I NEVER MARK UP.

We sell parts and have no interest in selling shipping or making money on shipping I can guarantee you are not being priced gouged on shipping we have to keep guys employed and need work making parts not money from shipping.

A container by sea to any region would be the best bet honestly probably 2500 for 10 hoods+ anything else that fits I'm sure their is someone in every country to organize this for a certain group looking for parts to be shipped out.

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Old 11-04-2014, 11:12 AM
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Re: CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

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I'm happy to see you are considering doing this again. Do you have and pictures of the underside of the hood of the two options?


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Re: CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

Lock me in Chad.

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Re: CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

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Chad

I'm happy to see you are considering doing this again. Do you have and pictures of the underside of the hood of the two options?


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I don't it's a full OEM quality inner and I amy make it better than the one that was sold before.
May be Scott can get you a picture of his so you have an idea of what the inners look like.


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Lock me in Chad.

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I'm in on one 100% full CF extra strength


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Re: CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

Count me in for a bonnet and lip but I'm in Australia so I'm going to need some other Aussies to chime in for a group buy. There's plenty of other Black Ops stuff I could fill that container with as well.


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Re: CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

put me down for 1 carbon fiber. Is the carbon fiber inner a drasic difference over the fiberglass one?
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whats the weight savings from the cf compared to OEM?
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In - fiberglass

You mean CF Dom!


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Re: CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

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put me down for 1 carbon fiber. Is the carbon fiber inner a drastic difference over the fiberglass one?
Done
More for looks may be 1-2#

MORE BELOW!!! LOL


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whats the weight savings from the cf compared to OEM?
The hood is indeed lighter.

OEM is 15-18#'s

Here is an example: All our competition build hoods at 30-35# because they are laminating a fiberglass hood and spraying with Clear paint or laying up heavy and spraying with clear paint.

We start with an in mold clear lay carbon some times two layers .The same process on the inner skin as on the outer skin. In total you have 2-4 layers of carbon (Depending on the hood) We do have one more filler thats our secret we can not discuss here LOL.

The weight all comes down to resin content and this is the very reason we use our method of building parts ex. our resin content is 30-40%

Our competition use a chopper gun (Mixed resin with chopped fiberglass sprayed at a mold then rolled out 50%+ resin content) We don't use chopper guns and can control the resin content. The less resin content the stronger the part. I know of one hood that is hand laid WRONG I have seen them in person and I wouldn't put it on my worst enemies car they miss out on a few Key steps that are very important. Resin content = cracked, stress crack, falling apart, yellowing or clouding.

We know for a fact we have the lightest strongest Carbon hoods in the industry and do not use any cleat paint on any of them. If u get a scratch wet sand it out. Not like our competition "sent it back for more clear coat" Ours also don't fade or yellow this is a bonus and very important.

Back to your question finally sorry off topic LOL

We can build an 8 pound full race hood solid 3-6 layers of carbon pin on no problem. The cost will be in the range of 3500.00 No one wants to pay that or even needs that so we don't advertise that since the jeep weighs so much a heavy lunch could make the same difference no one is setting records on the pro circuit of drag racing here Haa.

Now from a pin on to our fiberglass that should weigh in at 12-14# (not sure until our New MFG actually builds this style) All our hoods are 1-2 pounds of each other and have been for 8 years so I expect this hood to be no different. The Carbon may be a little bit lighter than the fiberglass simply because of fabric strength and resin content we can drop it a bit most likely 3-4# so 8-11# pounds for a carbon fiber.

In 7 years I have never had a customer weigh a hood or buy a carbon hood simply because of weight they buy them because they like the looks. I make everyone understand that they should not buy for weight. I have never had a sales technique of "Buy it because of weight" just like I'm telling everyone here.

Just remember what you save with the cost from FG to CF you may bite the bullet at the body shop so get your paint quote first. I can not tell you how may times in 7 years I have told people this only to get an email saying they wish they bought the carbon because their body shop wants 400-800 to paint the hood. I've seen quotes of 1,200 and people calling me to ask "what to do" I have even called a dozen body shops and asked what the shop rate was since they had 4-5 hrs of labor on the estimate and a price of 800.00 haa. If your shop rate is 49.00hr. and you are getting a 800$ quote it's time to ask questions or move on. If you do buy FG and you do not like the quote or feel free to ask me for help I will be more than happy and it is not beyond my service to you I do all kinds of crazy stuff for customers LOL

Hope I answered all your questions and gave a little bit of insight as to how things are done. Now everyone can ask build question in the future to anyone selling carbon parts. The more you know how carbon is built the better for me because the oldest saying I have is

"Not All Carbon Is Created Equal"

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Re: CFR HOOD Bring it back or NOT Group Buy!

I'll take mine with a fiberglass inside then! not too many people are going to see the inside haha
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