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Re: Grand Cherokee SRT offer...

My 2015 jeep SRT red vapor edition has carbon fiber trim on dash and doors.Very nicely done.SUV has been so much fun to drive and the performance is amazing.I purchased mine for 1,000 under invoice,I had to order mine and it took 8 weeks for delivery.

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Re: Grand Cherokee SRT offer...

I guess they can slap more leather on the interior of the Jeep on the dash and doors to to get rid of the hard plastic on future models,to bring it up to your standard of a great fit and finish Jeep,the question is,are you willing to pay more in thousands of dollars for such an upgrade?
Especially if some of you are not willing to pay for a good product right now in front of you.
We demand that North American auto maker put all the bells and whistle and great fit and finish on the vehicle and we refuse to pay for it,but when it comes to the import especially from Germany we just say how much does it cost and is willing to pay for it,because it has to be good,alot of psychological brain washing.
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Depreciation is horrendous? Bought my 2010 for $41k...5 years later and 80k miles later I can sell it for 30k. In what world is that a horrendous depreciation?
Obviously you are a Nissan fan. Stick with that.
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Re: Grand Cherokee SRT offer...

I got mine below invoice. Shop around and show them other prices at other dealerships. They will try to be competitive but won't go past invoice unless you get up and walk out. This dealer always shows their Best Shot deal.... it is pretty much employee pricing but they can't call it that because the SRT is not eligible for employee pricing.

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I hope this helps.

BTW.... I didn't pay invoice or above invoice. I also had the USAA no haggle deal but they can beat those.
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Re: Grand Cherokee SRT offer...

Plain and blatently simple. You sir can F off.
Do you homework and math (its out there) and do a spreadsheet to determine dealer true cost of the vehicle and find a decent middle ground.

I personally am a sales manager for a Honda dealership and deal with very frugal customers... This is a business. I make a living like most everyone else on here.. Except in my business the public has been condition to not pay what people ask for their product or what the market/ internet says is the true market value.... Try that at Wal-Mart? Not likely.

AT invoice depending on trim is ~ a $2k deal for the dealer... $2k for them to have shelled out $60k+ is more than reasonable for both parties.

The worst shoppers are Indian shoppers... they have unrealistic expectations and have plenty of money.. its simply how they are conditioned
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@PIXER Sir you need to settle down.

First there is the factory invoice.... that is what the dealership pays for the vehicle. Customers never see this price, and I have my droughts that the sales people even know the prices.

Second there is the dealer invoice that some dealerships like to say is the factory invoice. Not true and this is why. If employee pricing goes below the factory invoice and the dealership still makes money off the deal then how ....? Are you following my thought process?

Every manufacture sets a MSRP but based on volume of vehicles sold be dealerships the prices can go down to that dealership. If they meet or exceed the quota by the manufacture then they are going to get a bonus from the manufacture. There are a lot of hold-backs paid to the dealership so don't feel bad about pushing to save a few hundred dollars. They are making thousands on the deal.

So find out how the dealership is doing? Ask some leading questions to some of the salesman act as though you are just shopping around, let them know you've been to other dealerships. They will spill their guts. If they give you a sob story they could be playing you. Be careful they want you to feel like you've got them and they aren't making any money on the deal. Trust me.... they are. Management wouldn't let the sale happen if they aren't making a few grand. but use it to your advantage. They want you to feel like they are struggling.
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Re: Grand Cherokee SRT offer...

Really like to know how that $55-57k offer price is going.......
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Re: Grand Cherokee SRT offer...

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@PIXER Sir you need to settle down.

First there is the factory invoice.... that is what the dealership pays for the vehicle. Customers never see this price, and I have my droughts that the sales people even know the prices.

Second there is the dealer invoice that some dealerships like to say is the factory invoice. Not true and this is why. If employee pricing goes below the factory invoice and the dealership still makes money off the deal then how ....? Are you following my thought process?

Every manufacture sets a MSRP but based on volume of vehicles sold be dealerships the prices can go down to that dealership. If they meet or exceed the quota by the manufacture then they are going to get a bonus from the manufacture. There are a lot of hold-backs paid to the dealership so don't feel bad about pushing to save a few hundred dollars. They are making thousands on the deal.

So find out how the dealership is doing? Ask some leading questions to some of the salesman act as though you are just shopping around, let them know you've been to other dealerships. They will spill their guts. If they give you a sob story they could be playing you. Be careful they want you to feel like you've got them and they aren't making any money on the deal. Trust me.... they are. Management wouldn't let the sale happen if they aren't making a few grand. but use it to your advantage. They want you to feel like they are struggling.
Why should I settle down? I do this for a living bro. Meaning I work on average 5-7 car deals EVERYDAY, 6 days a week... You buy a car how often? GTFO wwith that BS.
Invoice minus Hold-back Minus HTB minus dealer cash (no dealer cash on SRT's) is true NET (plus any "ads" such as packs or regional adjustments
Plus hitting target for volume pays on average ~500 per car

Still doesnt equal 5-7k below invoice
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Why should I settle down? I do this for a living bro. Meaning I work on average 5-7 car deals EVERYDAY, 6 days a week... You buy a car how often? GTFO wwith that BS.
Invoice minus Hold-back Minus HTB minus dealer cash (no dealer cash on SRT's) is true NET (plus any "ads" such as packs or regional adjustments
Plus hitting target for volume pays on average ~500 per car

Still doesnt equal 5-7k below invoice
There is no need for the language.

You work for Honda not Jeep. Another point I should make is the less time a vehicle sits on the lot means the more they make on a vehicle.

I was offered 64500 for a 2014 JGC SRT8. No haggling and the offer came in an email. I didn't want the 2014 but that helps to show the Markup a dealership has on the vehicle if it takes them till the new year comes out to lower their initial offer price. At 64500 which was 10% below MSRP the dealerships is still making money.
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There is no need for the language.

You work for Honda not Jeep. Another point I should make is the less time a vehicle sits on the lot means the more they make on a vehicle.

I was offered 64500 for a 2014 JGC SRT8. No haggling and the offer came in an email. I didn't want the 2014 but that helps to show the Markup a dealership has on the vehicle if it takes them till the new year comes out to lower their initial offer price. At 64500 which was 10% below MSRP the dealerships is still making money.
The language is needed to help convey the stupidity from some of the posts.
Your logic is false and your not looking at all the variables.
The manufactorer can help move aged units with incentives to help make them move (I.E. dealercash or write downs). This doesnt come from the dealer (I.E. dealer pays $10k for vehicle and trys selling it for $20k... 1 year later when it hasnt moved goes to $11k...)
Instead dealer pays $18.5k for vehicle, list is $20k, incentives varry from time to time and fluctuate from $500- maybe $1500 meaning dealer owns said vehicle for $17k-$18k at different times... when and IF manufactorer deams needed to give more $$$ to move the vehicles they might make the incentive $2k-$2,500 to get rid of them)
But NOT $10k....
rant over... still at work and we closed at 6...
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I guess they can slap more leather on the interior of the Jeep on the dash and doors to to get rid of the hard plastic on future models,to bring it up to your standard of a great fit and finish Jeep,the question is,are you willing to pay more in thousands of dollars for such an upgrade?
Especially if some of you are not willing to pay for a good product right now in front of you.
We demand that North American auto maker put all the bells and whistle and great fit and finish on the vehicle and we refuse to pay for it,but when it comes to the import especially from Germany we just say how much does it cost and is willing to pay for it,because it has to be good,alot of psychological brain washing.
I'm willing to pay more for a better built and finished vehicle and I usually do....after all if the FX70 would still come with a V8 (and blind spot monitoring which is an inexcusable absence in that vehicle) I would buy it even if it offers less performance than the SRT and a higher sticker price.

I agree that a lot of the "Germany superiority in fit and finish" is a myth...compared to the Japanese and nowadays Cadillac as well which has assembly quality and materials second to none....and, accordingly, Cadillac cars carry higher price tags.

However I noticed that the SRT seems, on average, better assembled (the 3 I have seen) than the regular Grand Cherokee......test drove a Summit and I did not like that much, very different driving experience than the SRT...it had assembly defects which I find totally unacceptable on a car on that segment.....misaligned glove box doors, trims, etc...same for other lesser GC I examined.

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Really like to know how that $55-57k offer price is going.......
I haven't made my offer yet, probably tomorrow, I been very busy. Salesman called 3 times asking me to come in. I will offer 60K + tax and destination.

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There is no need for the language.

Don't worry he can bark and blabber as much as he wants, I do not get offended, I have a thick skin...I know how much I paid for my cars so someone, somewhere made enough money to deal with me.

My initial 55-57K offer obviously would have been a bait to start a conversation and work my buffer on the way up.....however I do not have time to haggle so my first shot will be at 60 + tax and destination and straight KBB (dealer trade-in value) for my trade-in.
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I'm willing to pay more for a better built and finished vehicle and I usually do....after all if the FX70 would still come with a V8 (and blind spot monitoring which is an inexcusable absence in that vehicle) I would buy it even if it offers less performance than the SRT and a higher sticker price.

I agree that a lot of the "Germany superiority in fit and finish" is a myth...compared to the Japanese and nowadays Cadillac as well which has assembly quality and materials second to none....and, accordingly, Cadillac cars carry higher price tags.

However I noticed that the SRT seems, on average, better assembled (the 3 I have seen) than the regular Grand Cherokee......test drove a Summit and I did not like that much, very different driving experience than the SRT...it had assembly defects which I find totally unacceptable on a car on that segment.....misaligned glove box doors, trims, etc...same for other lesser GC I examined.



I haven't made my offer yet, probably tomorrow, I been very busy. Salesman called 3 times asking me to come in. I will offer 60K + tax and destination.






Don't worry he can bark and blabber as much as he wants, I do not get offended, I have a thick skin...I know how much I paid for my cars so someone, somewhere made enough money to deal with me.

My initial 55-57K offer obviously would have been a bait to start a conversation and work my buffer on the way up.....however I do not have time to haggle so my first shot will be at 60 + tax and destination and straight KBB (dealer trade-in value) for my trade-in.
What a troll... Its not "someone made enough money somewhere" its they took the deal, cut there loss and moved on. If you are truley believe car dealers dont sell SOME cars and loose money... you are severly mistaken.

And "however I do not have time to haggle so my first shot will be at 60 + tax and destination and straight KBB (dealer trade-in value) for my trade-in."
Great, you dont have time to haggle but you have time to post online and online shop... The "I dont have time to haggle" is such a pVssy way of saying "I'm cheap and hate confrontations"
Quickest way is to pay sticker... or take a "fair deal"

And KBB doesnt buy vehicles, they are a GUIDE.
KBB "Fair condition" minus reconditioning is a decent way to determine trade value 75% of the time
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