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Is there a need for winter tires in the midwest?

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5K views 39 replies 14 participants last post by  lstowell 
#1 ·
I'm currently in a 5.7L 2012 Overland, which allows me to drive like an ass all over the place in the winter flying by cars everywhere with ease. I had a 2009 CTS-V before this with blizzard for the winter. I drove like a grandpa when there was snow, but it was doable without issues.

I'll be buying a lightly used either (Charger Hellcat or 2017+ SRT Jeep) within the next year or so.

I live in Chicago and we get crap weather. Will the all seasons on the SRT be fine for snow (1, 2, 3 inches, etc.) I don't travel far when it snows, but I do need to get back and forth to work and it is also my daily driver.

Please give me your opinions.

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
I live in the suburbs of Chicago and drive my 2015 SRT Grand Cherokee year round with the stock Pirelli all season tires. While I wouldn't say it's bad in the snow at all, it definitely doesn't compare to when I had my 2006 Hummer H2 SUT.

I only drive 12 miles each way to work so it's not bad at all and I get through it just fine.
 
#3 ·
I live in the Chicago Burbs and have run dedicated winters for the past 10 years. I like to be prepared just in case I need to travel in bad weather. Accidents are not limited to people that drive long distances. They can happen a mile away from your home. To me an all-season tire is the best tire in no season. Winter compounds are made to preform better in temperatures under 45 degree so it's a no brainer for me to speed a few bucks to keep myself and my family safer.
 
#8 ·
You will be fine with all seasons but dedicated snows will always be better obviously


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#10 ·
Stay away from the Hellcat for winter snow driving, unless you can feather the gas pedal like your life depended on it, which it does
 
#14 ·
I had an '06 GTO... drove it once in light snow... parked it and said need a winter car... it was a manual so the lightest touch of the peddle and it was sideways... granted that car could not handle corners in the summer but some cars are not meant to be driven in the great white north




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#15 ·
That's how I got back into having Jeeps, I figured for the price of another set of rims and winter tire for my Maserati, I can afford a winter car. Best decision ever.......
 
#20 ·
This is why the rich stay rich:

6 wheels per winter season - trust me I tried in one year - 6K over 3 years 18K
Price of new Jeep 45K resale after 3 years around 30 loss 15K

So I'm 3K ahead without considering the deprecation on the Maserati. Mine has 10,000 miles on it and is worth a lot more then the one you linked that has 30000 miles on it. Plus I get a car that tows and is cheap to fix and mod. And of course 2 cars are better then one.....
 
#21 ·
You're what we call New Money.

I'm not sure how you're eating through tires in one season unless you're driving like an idiot but if you say so.

Here's one with 16k miles for 59k.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/681547194/overview/
As I said and im sure you know they don't hold their value. You're losing more in normal depreciation of that car then you would ripping through tires. 170k to 60k in 7 years with less than 10k miles.

 
#28 ·
Since you asked, I'll elaborate, the tires on the Maserati are Pirelli P0 245/35/20 and 285/35/20 they are soft and the side wall is as thick as a rubber band. And while in the summer they have amazing traction they have no traction under 40 degrees and become very brittle. Also when they get hit they transfer the force to the rim. Now Maserati rims, are not Jeep rims, one good pothole under 40 degrees and the tire and rim are pretty much gone, even if they don't look it, you'll feel the vibration next time you try to go fast. So here in the NJ NYC area where the roads are bad, the winter kills your tires. Buying a winter tire and putting it on the factory rims, will end up killing the rims, and the tires last for one season also. So the best thing is to keep the car in the garage, and just drive your Jeep in the winter......

Now of course no one forces you to own an Italian super car, but if this was relevant we would all end up riding the bus which is the economical choice :)

Tire Alloy wheel Automotive tire Wheel Rim


Notice how thin and flimsy the sidewall is.......
 
#30 ·
MAXgroup I respect the way you're taking this uncalled for dialogue. Some people own a winter "beater" to avoid wear and tear on their primary vehicle and that's OK. Never mind that beater is better than many folk's primary ride. However mention that you buy a GC to protect your supercar and and suddenly you're the bad guy? WTF.

Enjoy the rewards of your efforts mate.

Cheers,
Steve
 
#36 ·
Only one person questioned him and with reason. He bought another vehicle based on the fact that he would spend 4k on a winter set, which is what he originally said. He then went on to defend himself by upping it to a new figure of 6k on a winter set, proceeding to forecast an expenditure of $18,000 in a span of 3 years. He then states he has to spend so much because the "maserati rims are not like the jeep rims". What part does not sound ridiculous?

I will assume he has some money since he has stated it numerous times, but anyone who has a Jeep SRT also has a decent income. The reason he is being attacked is because he sounds like a tool to be honest. Starting off his explanation with "This is why the rich stay rich" and a bunch of other sentences just sounds foolish and arrogant. From a third party perspective all I see is someone not making cost effective decisions and having his money tied up in depreciating assets. Which is why 61% of the 2% and above don't even own a luxury branded vehicle. However I will respect that he is a family man and has served our country.
 
#34 ·
"To each his own" it's his money and his choice. If it makes him happy, than why does everyone else care so much?
I say go for it man, buy and drive whatever you like! You have obviously earned it...



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