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Old 07-16-2014, 04:59 AM
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Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

So I took my car to a spray painter and panel beater workshop today to get all the chrome trim around the windows painted in 2 PAC black paint , and also get my 4 spyder monkey rims painted in black metallic paint , so the guy ask me he needs the car for 3 days because he has to tape up the whole car I said no probs . Dropped the car at 8:00am and went home he said come back at 5:00pm and I will paint a sample of what the colour of your rims will look like .

Arrived at 5:00 and my car hadn't moved all day and was covered in white powder from where they had been sanding the bog on other cars inside there workshop shed , my car was outside around the corner from the shed about 10 metres from the shed entrance where theres about 5 other cars being worked on and my car was left unlocked all day and they were spray painting another car inside the shed but not in the paint booth..

So my question is because I am no spray painter or panel beater will this white powder ruin my paint and will the spray from the car inside the shed stick to my paint even thou it's inside the shed and mine is outside about 10 mtrs away ? , should I just go and get it tomorrow he told me he needed it today but did nothing now wants to keep until Saturday because he done nothing today is this normal or am I just to paranoid about me car .. He was recommended from other people and my local dealership said that's where they send all there cars , he seems ok , hence my topic was wanting to no if any spray painters or panel beaters here to help. Or I just get my car back tomorrow ?...




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Old 07-16-2014, 05:52 AM
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Re: Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

I would think that it will easily wash off. The paint will dry fairly fast when airborne and the wax on the paintwork should allow for it to be rubbed off.

I hope they had the windows of your car closed, as the smell of Thinners takes a while to get out of a car. My (old) car was at a panel shop for 8 weeks with the windows down.
I spat the dummy and made them pay for a full interior clean and detail, and it still took 6 months before I could not smell the paintshop each time I got in the car.

As for taking it away from the shop, I hope you do not live to regret the painting of chrome, as it will need to be perfect or it will show like dog balls.
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Old 07-16-2014, 06:02 AM
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Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

Is chrome that hard to paint ? , I didn't ask if they sand or do something to the chrome to make it stick only reason I ask believe it or not I have owned 46 cars never had one resprayed or been in a accident "Touchwood" , always sold them or traded them even my old muscle cars. And the windows were up thanks god ,so Enforcer are you talking about the Orange Peel effect ?? On the chrome
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Re: Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

yeah the chrome is plastic and it can be difficult to look good, as it is attached to the car and cannot be removed for painting. They will need to sand the surface to get a good bonding. They will also need to be sharp on the masking.

Personally I live with the chrome, as I do not think I would be happy with the results.
As for the wheels, they are even worse, as they have clear coat and would need to be prepped. I hope you do not have the Spider Monkey wheels as they are very intricate and would be difficult to prepare.
I would try to do some plastidip first and see if you like it. If not, it can easily be removed.
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Old 07-16-2014, 07:46 AM
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Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

Christ that's what's been done tomorrow the Spider Monkeys ? And chrome strips , I went this way because I never tried doing the whole wrap scene on the chrome strips and the bloke gave me a good price to paint it the strip and spider monkeys , bloody hell ya got me worried now , are you a spray painter Enforcer ? .. Hmm might have to go and see him tomorrow , was really hoping that someone on this site went the way I did and chime in

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Old 07-16-2014, 07:58 AM
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Not a fan of painting chrome. No matter how good of a job they do, paint chips if something hits it hard enough. If the seams of your chrome are not aligned perfectly or it has a lip it'll wear thin from washings and you'll see the chrome. Touching it up works but you can still see slight imperfections. Vinyl is much more durable for the trim IMO.
That paint shop sounds kind of shitty. I wouldn't be surprised if you have over spray on your car as well. I would be wary of a shop like that.
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Re: Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

I would wrap the window trim. Easier and cheaper. My shop would only paint the front grill chrome as they could take it off and lightly sandblast and then paint. Looks great. But refused to do the window trim. Black gloss vinyl looks great.

As for the rims. I asked the guy who powdered coated my exhaust and he said he could do it but would need lots of sandblasting and prep and work. May have them done this winter when I swap out for winter tires




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Re: Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

But he's going to paint it in 2 PAC paint that's pretty hard paint right ? for the window chrome strips and wheels ? , as I said I'm no painter and everyone's input helps me so thanks for that . Can't sleep now keep tossing which way to go , I took the car to a professional wrapper he wouldnt touch the chrome strips kept saying it's to much fine work where the rubber seals are next to the chrome strip and that he would probably cut the rubber seal ? So he refused to do it so that why I went this way


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So 2 PAC paint is strong and durable right and will last ?? It's ok Google to the rescue


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Re: Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

I don't know anything about paint. But for $60 in 3m auto wrap and an exacto knife I did the job in 6 hours

Lots of threads about this and some DIY info. I have zero skill no patience but this was not bad. Around the mirror was tough but not bad

Hope the paint works and it should. And that area isn't prone to chips like the front


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Re: Is there any Professional Spray Painters or Panel Beaters here ?

I am not a spray painter, but have been around the Mod scene for 20+ years.

I would pull the plug and do some more research before committing to such a drastic mod, as it will not be reversible.

As a minimum, I would speak to the spray painter and ask him if he thinks the job will look 100%.
The problem with the 2Pac paint is that it is permanent and very difficult to look right.
Being you have chosen gloss black, it will show any imperfections.

There is a very good reason why the Wrap guy did not want to touch it. Do you think the spray painter will be able to mask better than a wrap guy can wrap ?

As others have suggested, you can try the wrap yourself and if you stuff it up, you can peel it off. Same thing with PlastiDip
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Well went back there today at 1:00pm car still sitting there ,walked in asked for my keys and drove of didn't give him an explanation just asked for the keys , so I went to another professional place today these guys have a really nice shop and there wrapping cars like full body wraps and doing cars that a valued 100k to 500k cars .

So I showed them my car and told them what I want ie the wrap around the windows to change from chrome to gloss black and they said they have been asked by other jeep owners and the have refused to do it , reason being they said they can't get the wrap to tuck a little bit under the chrome strips and they guarantee it would peel of after 5mnths or more because you can't get the wrap around the edges properly , and they highly recommend that I paint the chrome strips

Here's the website http://www.exclusivegroup.com.au and in no way am I trying to shame or say a bad word about this place as far as I am concerned these guys were honest and tried to point me in the right direction for my Jeep . I just trying hard to get a handle on all of this as well as look for some input from you guys that have either painted or wrapped the chrome strips around the windows , to me at the moment it's a uphill battle because I really don't like the chrome look ..


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