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Old 03-26-2014, 04:36 PM
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Re: little disappointment with my Jeep SRT family

although I agree with what most are saying above, i think there are many factors in play and the factors are different for each individual. Speaking from my own experience and why I haven't done every mod I come across in no particular order:

1) The economy hasn't fully recovered and we are still unsure where it is going.

2) I have a warranty on a 65K vehicle and don't want to mess with anything that will affect the warranty. For WK1 owners if you bought a used WK1 SRT8 and something went wrong and you had a total loss for example as a worst case scenario, you could buy another used one and still spend less than a brand new WK2 SRT.

3) Different kind of buyer. At this stage of my life, I can't be seen driving around in a heavily modded car like I could 10 years ago. I prefer my DD to blend in with everyone else. Also, I would guess that the price point of WK2 SRTs has changed the demographic to an older average age compared to WK1 SRT8 owners. Different demographics have differing priorities.

4) I don't have a lot of time to mod myself and would rather just pay someone else to do all the work at this point in my life....problem is where I live, there are no shops that can do what I want them to do.

5) Finally, I am not a yuppie and the above are my opinions only and should not be mistaken for facts.
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:40 PM
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Re: little disappointment with my Jeep SRT family

Whilst this is my first Jeep SRT, it is not my first vehicle from the Chrysler family, i owned a 2010 300c. Fast forward to 2013 which is only three years down track, you could not possibly compare todays 300 to that of only three years back, the same can be said to the Jeep SRT. Chrysler vehicles has evolved so much, gone are the days of shoddy materials, bad fit and finish and lack of state of the art tech. Chrysler have entered a new era, not turned a new page, a new chapter, BUT commenced a new book. Our SRTs have everything we could want in a sports SUV which leaves little incentive to mod extensively, also not to mention the price tag $90k here in oz.

This is of course my opinion, there are those, namely Scott and Chris who have tastfully modded their beasts.
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:00 PM
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This doesn't just apply to the SRT jeeps even the regular WK2s don't have many off Road in parts available
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:12 PM
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Some very good points from all of you and puts a nice perspective out there for our vendors.


One question though.....

Why would a dealership try to screw you and get a warranty claim denied...When they get paid to do said warranty claim? They are taking money from their own pockets! Not a very smart practice....imho.
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:19 PM
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Re: little disappointment with my Jeep SRT family

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Some very good points from all of you and puts a nice perspective out there for our vendors.


One question though.....

Why would a dealership try to screw you and get a warranty claim denied...When they get paid to do said warranty claim? They are taking money from their own pockets! Not a very smart practice....imho.
What they get paid for warranty work is a lot less than regualar non warranty work. If the warranty is denied but the work still needs to be done they will get paid more from the customer. Also, they say that if they don't deny a warrant claim and it was later found out by another dealer that my vehicle had aftermarket parts and deny a warranty claim, the previous dealership gets a warranty charge back from Chrysler. This is what I have been told by a couple dealerships. Take it for what it is worth, maybe a bunch of smoke up my a$$, who knows.
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:28 PM
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Bought this thing cash and as you all know these aren't cheap... so there went my modding money. For now anyways!
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Re: little disappointment with my Jeep SRT family

As far as performance it boils down to the locked tuning. Chrysler killed a few good years of the ability to come up with better ideas and testing. The other brands allow you to do what you want. Even then, tuning still isn't allowed to touch some critical areas required for bigger things like forced induction. This is limiting the SRT performance parts as a whole, and leads to monopolies.
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Old 03-27-2014, 12:20 AM
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Re: little disappointment with my Jeep SRT family

I have a couple of points, but they are region specific to where I currently live.

  • Region
    • Basic mods do none to low performance increase
    • Most mods are not made to stand extreme dirt and heat (e.g. a short ram CAI does more harm than stock)
  • Community
    • Hard to find an active SRT community (where is everyone hiding ?!)
    • Not enough sources for reliable mods (region specific e.g. climate compatible)
  • Garages
    • Difficult to find a professional and reliable garage (I'm not a mechanic, installing mods myself is not an option)
    • Can't find a garage that orders and installs mods in one package (still looking for one)
  • Strict Regulations
    • Warranty issues with dealer regarding mods (they don't want to take any chances)
    • Strict rules regarding mods (e.g. emissions, sound etc)
    • Any failure due to a mod voids the warranty instantly
  • Shipping
    • Must order all mods internationally; Hefty import costs
    • Fear of product damage while shipping
    • Can't return items if damaged/fail/parts missing
    • Can't claim warranty
  • Car Build
    • Performance on this "Truck" is perfected (would you expect that from a 2.5+ ton vehicle ?)
    • The exhaust note is good enough for stock (better than most other performance SUVs at the same price range)
    • 0-100km in ~4.6 seconds on stock (that's awesome for an SUV !!)
Don't get me wrong, I was so pumped to modify the beast before it even arrived. I had a couple of links to mods and was ready to register at a couple of forums to start discussing and asking about them. However, all these points stacked together kind of pushed me away from any extreme mods until my warranty officially ends. Rules and regulations also discourage modifying vehicles. The truck is built to perform exquisitely on stock, without the need of mods directly (unless you really want to go much faster since day one of course). I also like to keep my car stock for a while so that I feel that nice difference when I mod it later on, that's just personal preference.
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:06 AM
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Re: little disappointment with my Jeep SRT family

As another aussie owner, the biggest problem for us is shipping costs and our dollar has fallen against yours. The CF hoods have to be certified here so that adds another few hundred to the cost. The BT products, whilst very nice looking are expensive, I would have thought the volume sold in the US could have brought the price down by now? PLUS we pay anywhere between $80k - $90k for our SRT's and while some seem to have deep pockets and throw money at them, I simply can't.

But I am also in business, so I can understand the point of the vendors, it's one of those catch 22 situations.
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I honestly think there were a lot of valid points made in this thread. Some good...some off on a tangent but that here nor there!

So as everyone else did...here is my opinion

I am a 27 year old man who is recently engaged and I am building a home as we speak. With that being said I bought my first SRT the day after I graduated college. I received a great job coming out of college. A job with a lot of promise and a nice starting salary. When I bought my first WK1 I was 23 years old. I didn't have a worry in the world. Still living at home. No girl at the time...I spent money on whatever I wanted. Most of it to the car!

Fast forward to 2013.

The new 14 SRT jeep debuts and I want it. Place my order and received it on April 15, 2013. That day I had exhaust done tstat done and window tints done. Then the reality set in. I just bought an expensive car! Hahah I use my car as a DD and love every minute of it. I would loveeeeee to put more money into it but now the way I think is this "is the juice worth the squeeze"? I would love to have the blackops CFR hood and splitter on my ride!!! But I just can't justify spending that money right now. It's like hmmm do I want a CFR hood or do I want a new living room set hahah

I get jealous when I see toms jeep or Scott's jeep with how badass it is. I want to do all that stuff too. I just can't do it right now. Bwoody intake. Some say it's the best some say no...either way 500 bucks said and done for intake? Come on that alittle ridiculous. Especially for one that people say is half ass.... $3K for an exhaust system when I could by cutouts for 400 and installed for a total of 600. Why would I spend the 3k? Looks of the exhaust? It will have the same sound pretty much... Things like that

Headers I could definitely see buying. Lowering kits hell yeah. I think what I'm getting at is these cars are already so expensive and I think a lot of people really dug into their pockets to get on so the modding money has dwindled.

I will still continue to mod and still continue to spend money on this beast....just need to chill for now.

One thing I will mention that is huge in my eyes.... When ordering my rims and lowering kit for Blackops,chad bent over backwards to try to help me out as much as possible to give me a great price. He said something that not a lot of vendors do. He said "I'll take $..... Off, would that help you out? When he said that to me he got me hooked on blackops. He cares! He knows! And most of all he understands that we all love the modding.

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Also when oem part cost what they do now, and $60k+ is spent to begin with people want to hold into that warranty. Not just for their sake but to resale too. The fan base for jeep has real changed over the years for all their vehicles. You never saw a wrangler as a family vehicle till the jk unlimited. Now there are grandparents and people that have no interest in taking doors off or getting dirty or off-roading buying them. The jk parts market followed the same curve. Parts for TJs are cheap and easy to come by. They got bought up by people that wanted functionability and used their trail tested wrangler. The jk market jumped right into the visually pleasing market. But when the front bumper is over 60" wide and the same with the rear, it's hard to make a walrus seal look good so it was over done. Also it's new so R&D drives the cost up. I think by car companies adding all the bells and whistles to cars as factory option and not upgrades has killed the aftermarket too. People have come to expect nav, traction control and all kinds of crap. In the WK1 most of that was optional hence the SRT packages. With the less aggressive styling of the wk2 and all the factory equipped stuff that comes with it, it's really more of a every day car. More guys that just want something nice and has all kinds of buttons to show off are buying them. There is a guy down the street from me that just got a 2012 and I started talking to him. He doesn't even know what a CAI is. He bought it because he liked the way it sounded. Has no idea it's the fastest naturally aspirated SUV in the world! It's just another SUV with a lot of horsepower to a lot off people IMO. It's even harder to tell them apart from a lower trim level GC on the road. With the WK1 it's no mistaking it unless it's a clone. I'd say majority of the people that buy the wk2 are materialistic. Like the old guy down the road with his Z06. Gets it out maybe 10 times a year but he still tells everyone he has a z06. I have a WK1 SRT and I drive the pants off it every single day!
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Re: little disappointment with my Jeep SRT family

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I have a WK1 SRT and I drive the pants off it every single day!
I have a WK2 SRT and I drive the pants off it every single day too!
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