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Might have to cancel order... Opinions please!

A interesting change of events has transpired within the last week or so...

(back story first)
I made up my mind in February to prepare to purchase a new SRT. I have sold my convertible (4th car), got the wife into a cheaper monthly payment new car (with warranty- and she loves it- double win) and bought a cheap beater to drive while I get my current tow rig/ DD SUV ready to be sold (08 TBSS)

The events that have happened is that I owned a 18' open trailer and in anticipation to go to a big drag racing event in Bowling Green beginning of October put it up for sale (first time in 4 years I will be taking a vacation at this job). My fun car 13 GT500 has never and will never see rain... so to go to this event and stay 3-4 days I needed an enclosed trailer.

I end up blowing my stock clutch in my car drag racing on a Saturday night and order new parts plus cancel my trip to Bowling Green. Car has to be transported (via trailer) to the guy everyone recommends for the clutch install which is a 2 hour drive.. Only day I am off is Sundays.... So I schedule to drop the GT500 off Tuesday for the coming Sunday. Get a call Thursday morning on my trailer (which is still up for sale and I MUST use the coming up Sunday). Tell the guy what's up and he still wants to come look at it.
Comes and looks at it and says he has to have it now and offers me $200 more than what I had it listed for ($500 more than what I paid for it a year prior)... I accept and promptly start searching for new trailer.
Buy a brand new enclosed trailer in the size I think I need the next morning before work and have it delivered.


It is a 24' V nose Freedom trailer with dual 5200lb axles with brakes on both (10k GTW) and plenty of not important extras. Love it....

I work for a dealership and since my TBSS is still being cleaned in prep for being put up for sale I decide to take a dealerships vehicle to tow my new trailer with my car in it on Sunday.
The ONLY vehicle we have that can really tow something large at the time is a 2013 Cadillac Escalade ESV (6.2 liter rated to tow 7,800lbs).
Everything seems fine except the Caddy really seems to be downshifting allot and running 3k- 4k rpms during the drive (yes it was in tow mode, and I had cruise set at 70MPH- Caddy only has 4k miles on it and it is unlikely it has ever been used to tow- has full factory tow package)

So when I get to my destination I am talking with the owner and voice my concern about the high rpm and 6.8 MPG average during the trip... He then asks the questions of what is it rated at etc.. And then he asks me a question I had given thought but never actually checked since I just bought the new trailer... " What do you think that trailer alone weighs?"
To which I replied: 1,500-2,000 lbs... instant laughter from him makes me nervous and we read on the trailer and conclude the trailer alone weighs 3,999 lbs!
No wonder fuel mileage sucked and it was downshifting... it was towing nearly 8,000 lbs.... (plus the tow vehicle itself is a tank with a much longer wheel base than the SRT) I discuss with him my intent to purchase a new SRT and he says no way.. need a 3/4 ton truck... not my style and really not an option for what needs I have for a DD/ Tow rig..

So mighty wise members... what are your thoughts?
I am going to take the trailer with GT500 to the weigh station, unhook the trailer and get the actual weight of the load... Which should come in at ~ 7,900lbs if we are right about the trailer..

The SRT has the power (70 HP more than the Caddy, 60 ftlbs more torque- plus I plan to add a blower within the first 6 months of ownership of the SRT)
But it has a shorter wheel base than the Caddy and weighs nearly 800 lbs less... It will have enough brakes though

I have already started looking into the Reese weight distributing hitch with integrated sway control and have been searching though all the forums since I got home Sunday night....

Can it handle it? The Caddy did not really sway much even though it was quite windy....

I have also searched and I do not see where virtually anyone has done a air suspension on a WK2. Is there a reason why not? I am thinking this will not only help with looks and ride (so I can still be lowered) but that it will allow me to tow while being lowered + help with my above the factory's max towing limit....

Thoughts?

There is literally nothing on the market (new) that fits all my needs like the SRT and has a higher tow capacity (that I know of) and is still in the same realm price wise as the SRT...








Sorry for the long read.. summary = need to tow 800lbs more than factory limit

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Old 09-16-2014, 01:49 AM
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Sound like you should of bought a lighter trailer. What are the SRT'S tow capacity like 7000? Prolly only half of that without the weight distribution hitch. 1/2 ton truck would mostly likely tow it fine as well..
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Re: Might have to cancel order... Opinions please!

Sounds like you need a smaller trailer or a bigger tow rig.
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Re: Might have to cancel order... Opinions please!

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Sounds like you need a smaller trailer or a bigger tow rig.
Yup!

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Re: Might have to cancel order... Opinions please!

Also, regardless of how much the SRT can tow, your bigger issue is going to be the size of the trailer vs. the small size of the SRT. A 24' enclosed trailer is a pretty big brick back there and I can see the SRT getting blown all around. I probably wouldn't even tow that trailer w/ a half ton...3/4 ton or stay at home.

Personally I'd keep the SRT, buy a lighter and smaller open trailer and buy a car cover or pop-up awning if you're that concerned about a little rain. I mean we're just talking about some Mustang here, not a one of a kind vintage vehicle...

Here is some good reading about trying to tow a loaded 24' enclosed car hauler with a half ton...
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=442814
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Re: Might have to cancel order... Opinions please!

No SRT for you. It might be able to physically pull it, but the stress/strain over repeated use will not be a good idea.

Try to enjoy your new 3/4 ton pickup....
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You could also keep the SRT for DD duties, use the 24' enclosed trailer and buy a beater 3/4 diesel as a tow rig...
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Re: Might have to cancel order... Opinions please!

Thanks for the input.
I should add that I will only be traveling about 2 hours each way.. (no across the country stuff) and maybe 4-6 times a year...

And Prestone: the 14+ is rated at 7,200 lb capacity. ..

I would think these big boats I see people towing with their SRT would cause more drag than a v nose trailer...
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Thanks for the input.
I would think these big boats I see people towing with their SRT would cause more drag than a v nose trailer...
It depends on the boat. Also, just b/c you see it doesn't mean the driver is enjoying it or the vehicle can handle the load over time.

If it is just 2 hours, I would seriously look into a "beater" 3/4 diesel. There should be something out there with high miles just begging to be purchased to use as a tow vehicle a handful of times a year.
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LOL...your tow vehicle is worth more than the vehicle being towed
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So your saying he should put a hitch on his Mustang and tow his Srt jeep! LoL
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LOL...your tow vehicle is worth more than the vehicle being towed
MSRP to MSRP yes the Jeep is more... but it's a Jeep... With no limited availability. .. not numbered and almost 200 hp less stock for stock....

I can understand from most of your point of views that is just another mustang... but that is not the case.
I ordered my car, was able to find it for MSRP (at the time and 6 month +/- of my order dealers everywhere were charging $10k-$20k over MSRP for this car)
I drove to the plant to watch final production, then picked it up at the dealer with them doing a pdi only... so no one other than myself has ever washed it, drove it (except on/ off carrier truck/ assembly line)
I even rode with the tech during the pdi...
it's a special cat not just to me.

regardless, it has and will hold its value much more than the Jeep
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