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Old 08-16-2014, 05:32 PM
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Re: New 2015 Challenger Hellcat

I wonder if the extra power would require a stronger transfer case, axles, even more cooling and maybe even differential programming. I imagine they would manipulate the throttle and torque electronically but if it's dialed in high 10s should be easy.
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I wonder if the extra power would require a stronger transfer case, axles, even more cooling and maybe even differential programming. I imagine they would manipulate the throttle and torque electronically but if it's dialed in high 10s should be easy.
I was just about to ask that.. Can the srt handle that as is, or would it need a beefier undercarriage. I mean, all that power to an awd car must be hard to handle, no?
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Re: New 2015 Challenger Hellcat

From what I've read/seen, the transfer case/axles are ok with that level. The upgraded 8 speed would handle the power as well. I'm not sure of any showstoppers on the current SRT...would be interested in other thoughts there though.
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Re: New 2015 Challenger Hellcat

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From what I've read/seen, the transfer case/axles are ok with that level. The upgraded 8 speed would handle the power as well. I'm not sure of any showstoppers on the current SRT...would be interested in other thoughts there though.

If you go look at Mopar transmission sites for after market nag-1 transmissions, there is typically a 75 lb-ft disparity between recommended Jeep SRT rating and LC/LX rating (ie: 700 lb-ft LC/LX and same trans is only rated 625 lb-ft for The Jeep).

Therefore the new 8-speed wouldn't handle the full motor based on this logic. 650 lb-ft is 881 nm, and the 8hp90 is rated for 900 nm of torque.

I personally wouldn't want that motor in a heavier Jeep with 625 hp / 575 lb-ft... Not that it wouldn't be nice or fast, but this would not do the bigger vehicle justice. BTW with 18% loss this is roughly 507 at the wheels, and every supercharger company for the wk2 has beaten that figure. Hmmm pay 90k, and lose money on your current WK2, I think most wouldn't...
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Re: New 2015 Challenger Hellcat

Ser.#0001 too be auctioned next month at Barrett-Jackson.All the details are on the SRT site.
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I agree with the part with regards to the Jeep selling great. That is obvious and I would understand if they didn't do the Hellcat on this gen just because of that...

The part I don't agree with is development costs. They put the R&D into the engine, but past that there really isn't a lot of dev costs associated with them putting the motor into other platforms. It's going into the current gen Challenger, and Charger. The didn't re-engineer those platforms from the ground up to put the HC into them...

I'd love to see a HCJC, and I would order one whether it was this gen or next the day it was available. I'd rather not pay close to 90k for it though, but I'm guessing it is going to be pushing that regardless of generation (if they even do it).

If done well, it would be a vehicle that should be capable of selling anywhere in the world, and at the price range it would go into, will need to be competitive on and off road like a Range Rover SC or a G-Wagen AMG63 or better.

US regulators might be able to emasculate it, but there is a very large market out there besides the USofA....

And if it were offered in a few models, it might widen the market if offered in trim ranging from hardcore hose out the interior to UberSummit on/off road warrier that could run up some good publicity numbers at the 'Ring, then sell to rich pukes all over the world.
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Re: New 2015 Challenger Hellcat

In Australia - Holden Special Vehicles will be importing the Camaro as their donor car for adding "forbidden fruit" to , this will replace the Commodore (read G8 Pontiac for our US brothers)

If Chrysler/Dodge/SRT gurus have any foresight they may want to slip the beast in there as an alternative with select dealers across the country

As for this mill in my SRT .... well I would want something beefier in the rear diff (probably the front too) upgraded cogs in the box , the suspension would need tweaking to match the power increases , you're probably looking at an improved air intake across the front too

Definitely would have to suss out intercoolers for tranny fluids

More protection the better - it would be a Ball-tearing SUV + massive torque
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