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I have Power Stop Z23 ceramic/carbon fiber pads, and no they don't stop as well as OEM (about 80% or so), but they are absolutely fine for daily driving at 1/3 the cost of those Hawk pads. I have done hard stops from 120 MPH without a problem. No, I wouldn't trust them at a track, and I don't tow so I can't comment there, but I feel like this statement is not entirely accurate.
Z23's are not pure ceramic, they are a hybrid carbon fibre (infused) ceramic formula...

JGC SRT is 18%+ heavier than a Challenger that can't tow...big diff...

but again, if your driving is only DD, occasional street fun and no tow then a hybrid will work fine...they even make hybrids for track and tow just depends on mfr....

ceramic pads (pure not hybrid) do not belong on heavy SUV trucks tho.

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Re: PLEASE read- imho never install ceramic pads!

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i just put on the brembo cross drilled rotors (all four corners) and hawk sports pads front and stoptech in back - the "scott package". two days exprience but is great.
Where did you get the Brembo sport rotors from? How much? I'm striking out with all of the other manufacturers (all sold out / back order) as there must be an issue with their supplier.
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carid, need to look up price, brakes pads also
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carid has them listed, just checked, it says in stock ready to ship
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carid has them listed, just checked, it says in stock ready to ship
I just bought the cross drilled Brembo Sport front and rear from Amazonian Prime for $747!!
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Re: PLEASE read- imho never install ceramic pads!

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Just suck at heat transfer, easy to warp the rotors plus they are too soft for our weight class. Ceramic pads can be downright dangerous towing a heavy load on hilly, curvy terrain. Ceramics don't belong on 5000lb+ vehicles and their loads..... coupe/sedan class only for ceramics.
Is this the data? I feel like I am missing something. Does anyone have any quantifiable data other then a cryptic warning? I feel you can't post a message like that then not back it up with case studies or examples. I am all about the safety but I like an objective opinion.
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Re: PLEASE read- imho never install ceramic pads!

what "data" do you want? in general, this is very well known common knowledge...the manufacturers themselves tell you what is good/not good for the application...
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Re: PLEASE read- imho never install ceramic pads!

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what "data" do you want? in general, this is very well known common knowledge...the manufacturers themselves tell you what is good/not good for the application...
I am looking for some links to issues people have had and what not. I don't spend hours on these forums, but I am pretty up to speed on brakes. I haven't heard of any issues in the industry about ceramics. Scotts post was the first I have heard about them. I do understand that they aren't as sharp as the OEM pads, but that is about it. I have been using them on my rig for the last year with no issues. So Scotts post is rather alarming but there is no follow information or links to justify what he is saying.

On a cursory glance I see nothing about ceramic pads on the first page or two in most of the groups. I am just looking for info.
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I am looking for some links to issues people have had and what not. I don't spend hours on these forums, but I am pretty up to speed on brakes. I haven't heard of any issues in the industry about ceramics. Scotts post was the first I have heard about them. I do understand that they aren't as sharp as the OEM pads, but that is about it. I have been using them on my rig for the last year with no issues. So Scotts post is rather alarming but there is no follow information or links to justify what he is saying.

On a cursory glance I see nothing about ceramic pads on the first page or two in most of the groups. I am just looking for info.
It's always nice to hear about others' experiences. Tell us more about your driving style, miles you've put on them, brand you use, etc. It could be useful info for folks with similar driving style. Nobody is bashing you for having a different opinion. We do know that Scott is very up to date on these SRT's and others have tried his setup with great satisfaction. Post yours for comparison purposes.
Plus we love a knock down drag out with a lot of name calling. lol. Kinda kidding.
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Re: PLEASE read- imho never install ceramic pads!

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It's always nice to hear about others' experiences. Tell us more about your driving style, miles you've put on them, brand you use, etc. It could be useful info for folks with similar driving style. Nobody is bashing you for having a different opinion. We do know that Scott is very up to date on these SRT's and others have tried his setup with great satisfaction. Post yours for comparison purposes.
Plus we love a knock down drag out with a lot of name calling. lol. Kinda kidding.
Lol...slap fight it is...jk

Its my daily driver so your standard stop and go and highway cruising is about all. I pull my trailer with my racecar several times and have not had any issues. I think I probably have close to 10k miles on them. I love the low dust though, I rarely clean my wheels now...lol. Other than that, nothing too crazy. I leave the crazy stuff for the racecar. Overall there is a decrease in braking performance but after a year I am use to it, and the few times I have had to panic stop, I had no issues. It just takes more brake force then the stock pads took but the jeep still stops very adequate.

Again, I am not trying to start anything. I know Scott is a good dude, I am just trying to find information on why the ceramics are bad.
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Lol...slap fight it is...jk

Its my daily driver so your standard stop and go and highway cruising is about all. I pull my trailer with my racecar several times and have not had any issues. I think I probably have close to 10k miles on them. I love the low dust though, I rarely clean my wheels now...lol. Other than that, nothing too crazy. I leave the crazy stuff for the racecar. Overall there is a decrease in braking performance but after a year I am use to it, and the few times I have had to panic stop, I had no issues. It just takes more brake force then the stock pads took but the jeep still stops very adequate.

Again, I am not trying to start anything. I know Scott is a good dude, I am just trying to find information on why the ceramics are bad.
I've never had them but the one thing in your post that stands out to me is that they take more brake force than OEM. I'm actually looking to update the standard brakes on mine to something more heavy duty and requireing less brake force. Is the main attraction to ceramic pads being that they produce less brake dust? I've just started looking into brakes too so I don't know crap but it seems what you want them for has a big impact on the decision. Upgrading from OEM standard to OEM heavy duty may be all I need. It kind of depends how you use the vehicle.
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4 sets on 3 different SRT Jeeps which includes both model generations. Absolutely ZERO problems with stopping problem, dust, and rotors.

Just another good 'ol Scott hype thread to dredge up some activity on this board.....
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