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Old 02-24-2016, 11:33 AM
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You shouldn't have to pay attention. It should be blatantly obvious what gear you are in. Moving 5,000 pounds of steel can lead to a big problem if a mistake is made. I know looking at the display to see the gear is "obvious," but not always practical. This involves removing your eyes from the road - tactile feel is something a lot of drivers look for/prefer when shifting, as evidenced by the NHTSA investigation.
My feeling is that the shifter issue is way over inflated but I get that not everyone will feel the same way

I'm curious though, under what situation is removing your eyes off the road to shift not practical? You're parked when shifting from P to D or R or visa versa. You're also parked when shifting from R to D or visa versa. Shifting from D to S or visa versa is just a simple pull back on the shifter. Shifting to Park is a simple push forward on the shifter. All that happens while you're parked so taking eyes off the road seems practical.

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Old 02-24-2016, 12:30 PM
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Re: Shifter

Some have issues and complaints of it, I did as well for the first couple minutes of ownership lol, then it's straight forward IMO. I don't have to look at dash or shifter ever. One click and you're in reverse. Quick pull back to neutral and one more pull and ur in D. Once you have the feel for it, it's super easy and will never mess up a shift.

IMHO. The 14-15 shifter is best looking thus far. To each their own.


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Re: Shifter

In my opinion the shifter has always seemed odd in its location as well. The lower center console hasn't really changed since the 12's which had the staggered shifting pattern. They they stuck the shifter from the ZF in the same location. The indent from the old one is still there! It just seems odd and was probably given to them in their contract with ZF. As far as usage of the shifter, needing to put it in reverse shouldn't be about how delicately you move the shifter forward. Small push = neutral, medium push = reverse, large push = park. How many times do I think I'm in reverse, press the gas and just rev the engine. Usually facing oncoming traffic. If there is a way to retrofit to the new one, I would. It's simple, intuitive, logical. Again, just my opinion folks.
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Old 02-25-2016, 10:07 AM
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The 2016s have the same shifters but the SRT has a different finisher on it (faux leather). The summit has stitching on it, while the other trims have the same shifter with nothing on it.
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Old 02-26-2016, 11:55 PM
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I love my '14 shifter... No one else has a freaking clue how to drive it! Call it mopar theft prevention!


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I would swap for the 2016 shifter if possible.
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Re: Shifter

I like the shifter on my 15' at first it was a lil weird at first but in a few days of having it i got used to it and feel like any other shifter


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Re: Shifter

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No problems from me with the shifter in the 2015, it has almost identical functionality to that of the shifters in most auto BMW's since 2007. The only difference with the BMW being it knocks the vehicle in to Park if you open a door.
Nope, that is not the only difference.

The current electronic shifter in the BMW X5 is a much better designed unit. Going into any of the normally encountered gears/drive modes involves moving the shifter fully in one direction. There is no need to count detents. notches, or clicks.

Here is a video of that BMW Shifter & how it operates:


My only major issue with the 2014/15 WK2 shifter is the transition from Drive into Reverse.

That transition involves moving the shifter 2 "notches" forward out of a possible 3. Go too far & end up in Park. Don't go far enough & end up in Neutral. And that is a poor design. Under a stressful, urgent, or emergency situation a driver has a far too high chance of landing in the wrong gear. A better fix would have been to do what BMW did & have PARK be a separate button. Then going from Drive to reverse would just require moving the shifter all the way forward & there wouldn't be a way to go too far or fall short.

Someone (antsjeep) in another thread already had an accident because they couldn't go from Drive to reverse fast enough to avoid someone backing out of a parking spot & hitting them.
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Re: Shifter

I can't say I have ever landed in the wrong gear with my 2015, in fact I love the shifter, it's easy to use. I find no difference speed of Drive > Reverse in the 2015 GC over the same in the X5.
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I can't say I have ever landed in the wrong gear with my 2015, in fact I love the shifter, it's easy to use. I find no difference speed of Drive > Reverse in the 2015 GC over the same in the X5.
While the WK2 shifter can be just as FAST as the BMW, it is also prone to potential errors or issues that the BMW isn't.

With the BMW, it is impossible to go "past" Reverse from Drive and end up in another unwanted gear (like Park). In the 2014/15 WK2 this is a very really possibility. In fact, under a high stress or emergency situation, going from Drive into Reverse may result in exactly this condition if a person pushes just a little too hard.



IMHO, it is a poor design that only required 1 major change to correct. Had Jeep added a separate button to engage Park (instead of it being another notch past Reverse), it would have made all the difference.
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I can't say I have ever landed in the wrong gear with my 2015, in fact I love the shifter, it's easy to use. I find no difference speed of Drive > Reverse in the 2015 GC over the same in the X5.
Just another example of someone not being able to admit to EVER having a single mishap with this shifter.

Wish i were perfect.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:32 AM
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Just another example of someone not being able to admit to EVER having a single mishap with this shifter.

Wish i were perfect.
Another example of "it doesn't work for me so it can't possibly work for anyone else".
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