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Once I got pulled over for pacing a state trooper who was driving 15 mph over the limit (no lights/sirens) at night on an Interstate with very little traffic. I followed him approximately 5 car lengths back.

After about 10 minutes of this he slowed down parallel to me, shone his spotlight into my vehicle (nearly blinding meórather dangerous while driving at Interstate speeds), and he accelerated again. I continued to pace him as before. After another few minutes, he slowed down significantly which I matched until I was almost at 40 mph. 40 mph is the minimum Interstate speed limit and I did not want a ticket for going too slowly. He got behind me, fired up his cherries and pulled me over.

"Do you have any idea how fast you were going?!!" he said angrily. "Gee, officer, I don't know. I was just following you," was my reply. "Well, don't do that!" was his retort.

He didn't like my V1 (calling me a "frequent flier"), but I knew he had to go away empty-handed. And, lo, he did.

Now I could use a few different excuses as to why the officer was going 15 above with no lights or siren, but without being that officer none of them matter here on the interwebs. I will say two things though, first off, if he was speeding for no reason whatsoever other than him being a cop, he was in the wrong. Secondly, it is not the greatest idea to follow/pace a cop in the method you described. I couldn't even tell you how many red flags that would throw up for me if I was on patrol and someone was doing that on a deserted hwy. With as many blatant hits/executions that have been happening on cops lately I would def be concerned with a car pacing me as I went fast, then pacing me as I slowed down, and then continuing to pace me after I spotlighted him. Just throwing that out there, it seems like this is a bad time for the police. Everyone is out to catch us doing something wrong or everyone is out just to kill us. Not to mention the approval rating and general trust for police is at an all time low right now. Makes it hard for good officers like myself to get the job done. But you know what they say, a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
As far as better radar detection technology, Ive yet to see something that has fooled and/or disrupted me from locking on a vehicles speed.
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Now I could use a few different excuses as to why the officer was going 15 above with no lights or siren, but without being that officer none of them matter here on the interwebs. I will say two things though, first off, if he was speeding for no reason whatsoever other than him being a cop, he was in the wrong. Secondly, it is not the greatest idea to follow/pace a cop in the method you described. I couldn't even tell you how many red flags that would throw up for me if I was on patrol and someone was doing that on a deserted hwy. With as many blatant hits/executions that have been happening on cops lately I would def be concerned with a car pacing me as I went fast, then pacing me as I slowed down, and then continuing to pace me after I spotlighted him. Just throwing that out there, it seems like this is a bad time for the police. Everyone is out to catch us doing something wrong or everyone is out just to kill us. Not to mention the approval rating and general trust for police is at an all time low right now. Makes it hard for good officers like myself to get the job done. But you know what they say, a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
As far as better radar detection technology, Ive yet to see something that has fooled and/or disrupted me from locking on a vehicles speed.
I like things like this. It gives both points of veiw in the aurgument
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Now I could use a few different excuses as to why the officer was going 15 above with no lights or siren, but without being that officer none of them matter here on the interwebs. I will say two things though, first off, if he was speeding for no reason whatsoever other than him being a cop, he was in the wrong. Secondly, it is not the greatest idea to follow/pace a cop in the method you described. I couldn't even tell you how many red flags that would throw up for me if I was on patrol and someone was doing that on a deserted hwy. With as many blatant hits/executions that have been happening on cops lately I would def be concerned with a car pacing me as I went fast, then pacing me as I slowed down, and then continuing to pace me after I spotlighted him. Just throwing that out there, it seems like this is a bad time for the police. Everyone is out to catch us doing something wrong or everyone is out just to kill us. Not to mention the approval rating and general trust for police is at an all time low right now. Makes it hard for good officers like myself to get the job done.
I think you're projecting a sinister situation when there wasn't one. I said "very little traffic" not "deserted highway". It was the stretch of I-5 between SeaTac and Seattle proper. I mentioned the amount of traffic to indicate we weren't dangerously weaving in and out of traffic.

Guy completely shot my night vision by shining his spotlight directly in my face and left me seeing spots while we were driving side by side at 65 mph. I'm guessing that wasn't a regulation maneuver. If it is, then the regulations should be changed.

I know your job is one of those that is generally thankless and is high stress, but you might bear in mind that not everyone trailing behind you is hatching some byzantine assassination plot in the middle of suburbia.
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I know your job is one of those that is generally thankless and is high stress, but you might bear in mind that not everyone trailing behind you is hatching some byzantine assassination plot in the middle of suburbia.
Without knowing the intent of the person trailing behind you, every cop needs to error on the side of being over cautious. The one time they don't will be the time we will be reading about in the news.

Then, the internet will be alive with people asking how the cop could be so stupid to let this happen.

As we heard every week if we watched that old cop show, "Be careful out there".


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Without knowing the intent of the person trailing behind you, every cop needs to error on the side of being over cautious. The one time they don't will be the time we will be reading about in the news.
That's nice. As he said, "...or everyone is out just to kill us."

I'm just wondering what kind of assassination scheme involves trailing behind (but not tailgating) a cop on the interstate. I mean, outside of some movie plot, that is. If we're talking about movie plots then there are plenty of movies where cops plot to kill people, too.
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That's nice. As he said, "...or everyone is out just to kill us."

I'm just wondering what kind of assassination scheme involves trailing behind (but not tailgating) a cop on the interstate. I mean, outside of some movie plot, that is. If we're talking about movie plots then there are plenty of movies where cops plot to kill people, too.
I wasn't thinking about any planned attack. But, how about the guy who got a ticket last week, is driving around high as a kite, and is pissed off at every cop because he was caught speeding. I know that couldn't happen in our civilized society ... Or could it?


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I think you're projecting a sinister situation when there wasn't one. I said "very little traffic" not "deserted highway". It was the stretch of I-5 between SeaTac and Seattle proper. I mentioned the amount of traffic to indicate we weren't dangerously weaving in and out of traffic.

Guy completely shot my night vision by shining his spotlight directly in my face and left me seeing spots while we were driving side by side at 65 mph. I'm guessing that wasn't a regulation maneuver. If it is, then the regulations should be changed.

I know your job is one of those that is generally thankless and is high stress, but you might bear in mind that not everyone trailing behind you is hatching some byzantine assassination plot in the middle of suburbia.
The question is, how was that officer able to know that you weren't planning a sinister situation but instead trying to make a point by following him?

Do I think everyone out there is trying to kill me, no. While dealing with people do I keep that possibility in the back of my mind everytime, yes. Especially when I have those red flags being raised by someone's suspicious behavior. Because like mentioned, the first time I let my guard down is the first time I don't come home at the end of my shift.

As for the cop shining his spotlight, the most dangerous time for him would have been when you were right next to him. If you had bad intentions maybe that spotlight would have given him an extra second of reaction time. Because as we all know, action beats reaction every time.

As a courtesy to those officers who have been killed recently, I think its good for everyone to realize that the "byzantine assassination plot in the middle of suburbia" does exist, and is very real. Matter of fact most of them actually happen in the middle of suburbia.

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Shot while drinking coffee, in your neck of the woods.
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Actual ambush set up for officer just so they could kill him.
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I know this is way off topic but I just want everyone to understand that this type of thing happens more often than someone would expect. Which is why some officers might react the way that they do. Ill just leave it at that, and get back to trying to find a good deal on some black chrome spider monkeys for my ride.
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Without knowing the intent of the person trailing behind you, every cop needs to error on the side of being over cautious. The one time they don't will be the time we will be reading about in the news.

Then, the internet will be alive with people asking how the cop could be so stupid to let this happen.

As we heard every week if we watched that old cop show, "Be careful out there".


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If some vehicle started pacing me, I'd be looking for a Smith & Wesson before I allowed them to get anywhere near me. Given the tendency of some warped minds to literally hunt police officers, I'd not be too harsh on the officer--they have no idea who you are, or what your intentions are, and they too like to go home to their families in one piece every day.
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As for the cop shining his spotlight, the most dangerous time for him would have been when you were right next to him.
Glad we agree he shouldn't have chosen to deliberately slow down to below the speed limit in order to position himself directly beside me so he could shine a spotlight in my face while we're driving side by side. No doubt it would be "my fault" if I had swerved into him accidentally thanks to being blinded by his actions.

Again, the cop chose to put himself in the dangerous position. I'm not really following the mental leap between being followed at a safe distance over to being killed. What's the threat to life in this scenario? An RPG fired from a sedan?

Stopping to interact with someone following you is much higher risk, but he chose to do that. His prerogative, but his decision.
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If some vehicle started pacing me, I'd be looking for a Smith & Wesson before I allowed them to get anywhere near me.
Is that a protip for when you're paced by a vehicle that subsequently flips on a light bar?
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If some vehicle started pacing me, I'd be looking for a Smith & Wesson before I allowed them to get anywhere near me.
so what if its an undercover cop? they could be in anything. ive seen under cover police in everything from a s10 blazer to a mustang gt to a freaking viper
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