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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

You should take it up with your car insurance, they should cover the repairs for you.

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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

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You should take it up with your car insurance, they should cover the repairs for you.
Yeh I did thought about that, I'm sure he will claim it via his Car insurance.
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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

These are the posts on an Aus forum from an SRT owner that had similar issues just driving in rain.

posted 2015-Jan-28, 1:34 pm

My SRT8 had to be towed, engine died as I was driving on the Hume highway at 80km/h (Was heavy rain) Was towing racing car at the time. Managed to pull over on the side of the road.

Tried to restart engine, after the fourth go it started, engine was pinging badly, running really rough, thudding coming from the cats and HUGE amounts of steam coming out of both exhaust pipes.

That was yesterday morning at 3am. Still hasn't been looked at, yet.My SRT8 had to be towed, engine died as I was driving on the Hume highway at 80km/h (Was heavy rain) Was towing racing car at the time. Managed to pull over on the side of the road.

Tried to restart engine, after the fourth go it started, engine was pinging badly, running really rough, thudding coming from the cats and HUGE amounts of steam coming out of both exhaust pipes.

That was yesterday morning at 3am. Still hasn't been looked at, yet.


posted 2015-Jan-28, 3:05 pm

Was the last batch of the series 1, 2013. Alpine white.


posted 2015-Jan-29, 1:43 pm

Report on my SRT8, multiple miss fire due to water ingestion. Engine shut down to protect itself. Jeep are at a loss on how so much water entered the inlet manifold since the vehicle was driving down a perfectly sealed highway during rain. (Was on the Hume, just South of Sydney)

Looks like a design fault if water can enter the engine when it rains. (Not talking about crossing rivers or driving through deep water)

posted 2015-Jan-29, 5:04 pm

being towed to Canberra (dealership where it was purchased and serviced all its life.) To be diagnosed properly. It's running really rough, though not misfiring. I'm hoping it's not bent rods.

Not that worried since it's under warranty. It's been perfect up until now.

Though driving for 10 hours in constant pouring rain on the Hume shouldn't have caused any issues.


posted 2015-Feb-25, 11:41 am

SRT8 Update:

Been at the dealership for a month now, they found water had been ingested into the engine. Air cleaner, inlet and plenum show signs of water. No idea how it got in there.

Dealerships advice, "Don't drive it when it rains!"

This is comedy gold!


posted 2015-Mar-24, 6:19 pm

SRT8 update:

It's STILL at the dealership, two months now. Have called Jeep Australia to find out what the hell is going on. (Apparently, according to the dealership, Jeep Australia are the ones holding up proceedings by denying fixing problems since the day the vehicle was delivered)

Where Jeep Australia said there is no such issue and will get to the bottom of it all.

(New front bar to be fitted, it kept popping out from it's mounts, even from the day it was delivered. Common issue.)

As for the water ingress, Jeep Australia and the dealership have no idea how it has happened, and keep suggesting not to drive it in the rain.

Apparently driving it for over a certain amount of time in the rain is considered "Excessive" thus is not warranted. When asking them what is the time limit that must be obeyed to pull over when it is raining, they keep refusing to answer, and refuse to give that to me in writing.

So there you have it, I have a vehicle that has a certain time limit allowed to be driven in the rain, yet no one can or will tell me what said limit is, except that it's under what I was doing to cause the issue. (Drove from Melbourne to Sydney in the rain) Apparently that's "excessive" driving time according to Jeep Australia!

Can anyone say 'Not fit for purpose' ?

(Considering my farm vehicle, a Great Wall X240 did the same trip, towing the same trailer, in the same conditions, without any issues. It was just a bit slower!)


posted 2015-Apr-24, 9:57 am

SRT8 UPDATE:

Vehicle has been at the dealer for three months now (No loan vehicle) It's been driven plenty of times in perfect weather to test for problems when it rains. (Yeah, go figure)

Jeep Australia have inspected the vehicle and report that everything is within manufacture specifications. The air cleaner element has been replaced with a new item, same as factory stock. Nothing else has been done/changed/modified to the vehicle to stop water ingress into the engine when towing on the highway in the rain.

Jeep Australia and the dealership have been requested to purchase the vehicle back, since it's not fit for purpose (Driving on perfectly sealed highways in the rain whilst towing)

Would I purchase another Jeep?

No.


posted 2015-May-14, 5:57 pm

SRT8 UPDATE:

Three and a half MONTHS later, vehicle has finally been purchased back by the dealership.

Dealer principle made an offer that was acceptable, paperwork completed yesterday.

I would like to say that whilst the dealership did the right thing, Jeep Australia REFUSED to acknowledge any issues and refused to offer any help (Loan vehicle, information, compensation)

In the end, if you purchase a Jeep and it is a good one, fantastic.

But if you are unfortunate to experience serious issues with it, forget about Jeep Australia helping.


posted 2015-May-15, 8:36 pm


not sure why Jeep Aust think it's perfectly fine for a 6.4lt engine to ingest water, hydraulic lock, and when it finally starts again, runs very rough, lost heaps of power and chews threw fuel.

Obviously their idea of fine is completely different to anyone elses idea of 'fine'.

Then for them to suggest to not drive it when it rains............

For me, Jeep Aust lost all credibility.

For all the others who are still owners, good luck. :}



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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

I wonder if they tried to pull the plugs out and then turn the motor over to clear the water out?


but I agree, that's crappy how that happened
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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

Re the video - That is a lot of water coming up from the wheel arches, he is moving. And the water must be 12+ inches deep, you can see half the wheel of the 4wd crossing the intersection under water.

The guy whose car died from driving it in the rain is a bit different. Or perhaps he isn't being honest about traveling through water. Perhaps a CAI is safer, since you don't get pooling of water like you get in the OEM air intake.
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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

You can see the depth on the left side by the two other vehicles crossing earlier. In both cases about half the wheel height.



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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

Message from Mosky after I showed him this thread:


I can definately say that I did not drive through standing/flowing pooled water. (It was raining heavily all the way from Melbourne to Sydney.)

Only thing modified on that vehicle was a cat back exhaust. Dealer and Jeep Australia had/have no issues with that. (Though Jeep Aust suggested in passing comment to me that a modded exhaust 'may' have contributed to the engine sucking in water, but quickly dismissed that when I asked them to prove the exhaust could have done that)

As for removing the plugs and turning the engine over, water ingress was the last thing on my mind when driving down the main highway on the East coast at 3am in the dark, after I just spent 12 hours at the wheel. (That and I didn't have any tools with me to do that)

Mine was a case of water spray finding it's way into the aircleaner (Very easy, as the OP in that thread has pointed out) The SRT8 aircleaner is open at the bottom, water vapor can enter the aircleaner easily.

The issue is, after driving for any length of time, the aircleaner element will become saturated with water, keep driving (Cause you have no idea this has happened) The water will now suck through the aircleaner element and start to pool inside the inlet plenum.

Throw elevated throttle angle (Was towing my race car) and a corner, guess where all that water is going to end up?

1 or two people complaining out of 38,000 of course Jeep Australia won't do anything. It's called an acceptable loss, one they can and do just ignore.

To the end consumer who paid $98k for a Jeep, and then be treated this way, leaves a VERY bady taste on ones maw.
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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

I'd love to see a pic of the intake. It does sound like poor design, and I'd expect more than 2 owners would suffer from the problem eventually.
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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

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I'd love to see a pic of the intake. It does sound like poor design, and I'd expect more than 2 owners would suffer from the problem eventually.
Here is the bottom of the stock air intak box... This opening feeds air up from the front ducts...

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Did u guys watch the video? Water is shooting up 3-4 ft above the front fenders....lol. the guy was driving at a crazy speed through high water. He was showing off and blew his engine...simple as that.
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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

Scott, there are 2 cars that have had this problem. Mosky is not the guy in the video, this was a different guy.
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Re: SRT Intake Design Flaw?

Yeah, and that owner was advised by the dealer that you aren't allowed to drive in heavy rain for extended periods. I guess the ducts that feed to the airbox are in the front airdam? It would be like a vacuum cleaner sucking up water. A CAI sounds like a safer option.
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