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sorry...Ive talked with the OP...were both buying 2012's because the price has come down into our range of affordability personally. I would much rather have a 2014...but dont wanna pay an extra $20k
Sorry - not sure how you would come up with a $20k bump in price with no HP increase - other than colors, LED's, larger NAV screen and the 8 speed - the new one will be the same as the old one?

It is not a world class beater...it's a great stateside SUV that is marginally faster than most cars and a few other SUV's on the road today...
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$20k in bumpo between what we expect to pay for a used 2012 and a new 2014....thats what i meant. The 2013's are already getting close to $70k(see the alpine and vapor editions)
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$20k in bumpo between what we expect to pay for a used 2012 and a new 2014....thats what i meant. The 2013's are already getting close to $70k(see the alpine and vapor editions)
If you are talking used - you are talking apples and oranges and the gulf will be far greater than $20k in those scenarios...
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My bet is the standard equipped 2014's won't be much more than the base priced 2013 is today. They may add some options that can drive the price over $70K but I think they will get a serious reality check when the orders for 2013's drop off OR the dealers complain when they get units forced on them they can't sell. I also predict SRT's will be re-introduced to the employee and affiliate pricing programs.

Remember, 2012's were supposed to be ALL (100%) customer ordered vehicles and even Ralph said in interviews they were sold out. If that was REALLY the case how do you explain ~500 "In Stock" 2012 SRT8's available in the US?
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My bet is the standard equipped 2014's won't be much more than the base priced 2013 is today. They may add some options that can drive the price over $70K but I think they will get a serious reality check when the orders for 2013's drop off OR the dealers complain when they get units forced on them they can't sell. I also predict SRT's will be re-introduced to the employee and affiliate pricing programs.

Remember, 2012's were supposed to be ALL (100%) customer ordered vehicles and even Ralph said in interviews they were sold out. If that was REALLY the case how do you explain ~500 "In Stock" 2012 SRT8's available in the US?
Exactly - it's all hype as usual to bolster first run sales. $70k price tag means you are playing with the big boys in the realm of SUV's. For that money the world is completely open.
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Don't get me wrong here, I absolutely love my SRT8, even more since I only paid $~57K for it loaded but the reality is they depreciate just like everything else.

They can do whatever they want with the price and be thrilled if they meet their sales goals. They make calculated decisions when arriving at price and seemed to have determined that they would rather sell fewer units at a higher margin than more units at a lower margin. That's good for those who already own, not so good for those who are being priced out of the market.

The wise buyer looks to the near used market and lets others take the depreciation hit. You can do it with these just as much as you can do it with the BMW, Porsche and Land Rover premium SUV's.

Hell, I've owned close to a dozen Porsche's over the years but have never ever considered purchasing new, it's just bad business. I buy most when they are about 18 months and 2 model years old. That's the sweet spot for maximizing your buying power while still getting essentially a new vehicle.
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My bet is the standard equipped 2014's won't be much more than the base priced 2013 is today. They may add some options that can drive the price over $70K but I think they will get a serious reality check when the orders for 2013's drop off OR the dealers complain when they get units forced on them they can't sell. I also predict SRT's will be re-introduced to the employee and affiliate pricing programs.

Remember, 2012's were supposed to be ALL (100%) customer ordered vehicles and even Ralph said in interviews they were sold out. If that was REALLY the case how do you explain ~500 "In Stock" 2012 SRT8's available in the US?
there arent 500 in stock. That is deceiving on cars.com The problem with cars,com is dealers are slow to remove or they are sold before listed and are listed anyway. I bet Ive called about 10 red new 2012's and they all have been sold. Ive found the same when looking used. I was told there are about 150 unsold 2012 jeep SRT's. the number 1 and 2 SRT dealers in the US have a total of 2 new SRT's...
The statement Gilles made was true....BUT their customers are dealers. So ALL 2012's were sold....to theeir customer....dealers.

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Don't get me wrong here, I absolutely love my SRT8, even more since I only paid $~57K for it loaded but the reality is they depreciate just like everything else.

They can do whatever they want with the price and be thrilled if they meet their sales goals. They make calculated decisions when arriving at price and seemed to have determined that they would rather sell fewer units at a higher margin than more units at a lower margin. That's good for those who already own, not so good for those who are being priced out of the market.

The wise buyer looks to the near used market and lets others take the depreciation hit. You can do it with these just as much as you can do it with the BMW, Porsche and Land Rover premium SUV's.

Hell, I've owned close to a dozen Porsche's over the years but have never ever considered purchasing new, it's just bad business. I buy most when they are about 18 months and 2 model years old. That's the sweet spot for maximizing your buying power while still getting essentially a new vehicle.
Ive talked to a friend...he's a dealer. The SRT's are getting great trade in values. An example he gave me....one customer traded a 12 for a 13.....they gave him lets say $55k trade in. Thats pretty darn good. So thats why all the 2012 used SRT's are in the $55k-$59k range in their advertisements.
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It's nice they are trading them high but what really matters is the delta between new purchase price and trade. Ask them what they will pay for a used one, no trade, no new car purchase (aka, auction price). I'm betting sub $50k.

Give it time, you'll find one under $50k, like I said, 18 months and 2 model years is the sweet spot, you have about 8 months before the used 2012's will be out there in the $48k range.
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