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Old 07-12-2016, 11:51 PM
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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

Wow, buy an expensive balancing machine and then put it in a cheap balance machine mode to save on lead. It's almost funny. Almost.

I certainly will be sharing my experience with the Chrysler zone rep so maybe he can help others avoid dealing with this frustration.

Thank you again!

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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

I can't wait to get my new tires mounted and balanced. I think I have been just been dealing with this for the last 2.5 years!
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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

I will be asking my tire shop about this as well. My wheel shimmies under the same conditions. Many thanks for the info.


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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

Well the guy seemed dumb founded when I dropped the smart weight balance info on him and spewed all the info that Hennessy suggested lol. They are going to check it next week for me and redo them the way that was suggested. Hopefully that takes care of that issue.
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Old 07-16-2016, 10:43 AM
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That's Awesome Ron-Indy! I am so glad you go your problem solved! It is total BS that anyone has to deal with what you had to deal with.

To answer your question why does Hunter even offer this BS feature... Hunter pitches this to the shop as a way to save money on wheel weights. This potentially could be a thousand dollars or more over a years time. The problem is just what you experienced, a crappy ride. You as the consumer pay for a Balance and Hunter simply does not deliver with SmartWeight.

So glad your ride quality is fixed.
I'm going to try this Monday as I'm experiencing the same issue with my OEM spiders and pirelli Scorpions.
Thanks for dropping the knowledge on us!
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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

Big thanks to Hennessy! They checked my tires the way Hennessy said to do it and unless I am mistaken they were WAY out of balance. He said they re clocked a couple of the tires and balanced them without smart mode and he admitted they were far enough out that it would create a shimmy in the sterring wheel and through out the truck. I tested them closely on the way home and NO MORE SHIMMY! Rides nice and smooth now!


He made this note to show me how far out they were. How does this look Hennessy?

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Old 07-21-2016, 01:40 PM
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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

The shop is showing you RoadForce Readings not Imbalance readings.

Would have been nice if they noted the weight difference used to balance the tire/wheel in traditional mode compared to SmartWeight.
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Old 07-21-2016, 01:42 PM
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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

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The shop is showing you RoadForce Readings not Imbalance readings.

Would have been nice if they noted the weight difference used to balance the tire/wheel in traditional mode compared to SmartWeight.
Thanks for all the good info, you have no idea how many shops just plain don't know how to balance these larger 20" wheels and blame it on everything under the sun except themselves. So to summarize, because I know I will never get a tech or service manager to read anything for more than 10 seconds are these bullets correct below on what they need to do? did I miss anything below?

I need to get new tires but I am petrified to go get them because my jeep is smooth as silk now and given the past experience with shaking tires on this jeep and no one knowing how to correct.

-Use collets and pin plates when mounting wheel on balancer
-Take the balancer out of Smartweight mode
-Balance in conventional mode and put the balancer in "Fine" mode to show the unbalance under .25oz.
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Old 07-21-2016, 07:08 PM
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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

Yes.

1) Use Low Taper Collets to backcone wheel. Make sure the collet fits snuggly.
2) Use Pin Plate to contact lug holes to replicate mount on balancer to mount on car
3) Take Balancer out of Smartweight Mode
4) Balance down to "0" in Dynamic Mode to eliminate Residuals
5) Switch to Static to check for Residual over .25oz
6) If Reads over .25oz place additional corrective weight in center of wheel for a Performance Balance.
7) Re-Spin to Check

The facts are that Residuals can impact the balance up to 50% of the time, while radial run-out and eccentricity issues account for less than 5%.

*Please note that on Coats Balancers they use Direct Drive for consistently accurate balance jobs and minimal calibration is needed to maintain Zero. Also they show Dynamic and Static on same screen which eliminates switching modes. Their high end model takes the technician through the Residual correction process while their other models show the information and the technician must know how to correct, which is very easy. Hope this information helps all. Thanks
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Yes.

1) Use Low Taper Collets to backcone wheel. Make sure the collet fits snuggly.
2) Use Pin Plate to contact lug holes to replicate mount on balancer to mount on car
3) Take Balancer out of Smartweight Mode
4) Balance down to "0" in Dynamic Mode to eliminate Residuals
5) Switch to Static to check for Residual over .25oz
6) If Reads over .25oz place additional corrective weight in center of wheel for a Performance Balance.
7) Re-Spin to Check

The facts are that Residuals can impact the balance up to 50% of the time, while radial run-out and eccentricity issues account for less than 5%.

*Please note that on Coats Balancers they use Direct Drive for consistently accurate balance jobs and minimal calibration is needed to maintain Zero. Also they show Dynamic and Static on same screen which eliminates switching modes. Their high end model takes the technician through the Residual correction process while their other models show the information and the technician must know how to correct, which is very easy. Hope this information helps all. Thanks
Excellent, thanks for the listing. I feel more confident going to get new tires now that I am armed with something like this. Do you think it is better to hand them something like this the first time going in? or should I wait for it to shake(which it probably will) and then come back. I don't want to insult them up front acting like a know it all but id like to avoid a return also.
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Old 07-21-2016, 07:34 PM
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Re: Steering wheel shimmy anybody?

I think it is perfectly fine to request them to take their Hunter Balancer out of Smartweight Mode, if it is a Coats you have one less thing to worry about. Also to ask if they will please use low taper collets and pin plates. It is a fine line after that. I don't hesitate to discuss if they perform "Residual Static & Dynamic Minimization"... If they give you the deer in headlights look I think you will know what that means.
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