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Old 09-02-2011, 05:32 AM
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Re: Thoughts on chat

As far as pricing goes I think Ralph said it in an earlier interview - "it's going to be lucrative." The higher up the food chain you go the more "lucrative." Whether going from an "S" Porsche to a turbo or a base Laredo to a Summit it happens. Does anyone really think the Summit with the same technology as the Laredo costs 40% more to make??? I think the big problem that I have with the price is that it was 1. unexpected, 2. a HUGE jump over the WK and 3. Went up even more before the first one got to a dealer.
In thinking about it, the WK was probably a screaming good deal and those who bought one did well. If we didn't have that one to compare to or think that the price was going to be about the same as a dressed up Laredo then maybe I wouln't have been so suprised or upset.
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Old 09-02-2011, 07:22 AM
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Re: Thoughts on chat

The peak listener tally looked to be about 1037 people at 730pm ECT, the chat started with rougly 750 people. These were figures shown on the web log list.
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Re: Thoughts on chat

I read a quote from bob lutz recently where he explained that the chevy Malibu costs within a few hundred dollars to make as a BMW 3series. The perception of quality is what allows the BMW to cost twice as much.

Chrysler/Jeep/SRT is a member of one of the most competitive industries on the planet. They have an obligation to sell their product for the highest possible price, their very careers depend on it. If there is an opportunity to increase profit they would be idiots not to jump on it.

With the constant rise and fall of auto companies, their last concern is hurting the feelings of potential SRT buyers over some price inflation. For every one person who feels entitled to a "fair" price, there are five people willing to pay more with a smile on their face.

I'm not trying to sound harsh, because I am nowhere close to being able to afford the vehicles I would like to own, but maybe that's why I'm looking at this from the outside completely baffled as to why there is confusion on the vehicles price tag.
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Re: Thoughts on chat

I was actually surprised that lots of my questions were answered (Guest) since I didn't put my name they probably thought the questions were from different people, lol.
Big one that didn't get answered is Affiliate Pricing but they probably wanted to keep the discussion more on the engineering side. I was surprised that I will be getting a full size 18" spare since I'm getting the tow package. Maybe I should get 3 more and use it as my winter setup (4 black steelies)! Also the odd size 20" tires are going to be fun to find replacements for. Weird they used run-flats if they are including a spare.
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Re: Thoughts on chat

Everyone saying they understand the fact that costs increase due to the lower production numbers, how do you explain the fact that the WK1 SRT had LOWER production numbers than what is proposed for the WK2 SRT and the cost of one was LOWER than the WK1 Overland?!

More BS from Gilles and his team.
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Re: Thoughts on chat

Step 1. Make a bad a** vehicle.
Step 2. Sell it for the highest price you possibly can.
Step 3. Bend the truth to pacify the individuals that don't understand step 2.
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^they'll be able to afford to upgrade that boardroom now
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Re: Thoughts on chat

hmm, I liked the chat, great way to build customer relationships and give us the inside scoop. Did find it somewhat cheesy though, they definitely didn't answer a ton of questions as I know there must have been thousands submitted and I read through that whole thing in like 10 minutes haha. Anyway props to Ralph (if it was really him??? hmm)

Gotta love SRT for doing it and trying to be committed to the community. Def a step they need to take to be successful in business. Props to them for that.

Anyway regarding pricing, they def just gave us the run around. Although I too blamed increased costs for the hike in MSRP and Ralph agreed, Im not buying that. Def a brand improvement tax on there just to make more $ which is fine, up to them as a business.

And regarding locked PCMS - totally makes sense why its locked, warranty fraud prob costed them a bunch and there are certainly some shade-tree tuners and other people out there who will blow a motor up for a few bucks. So again, I get the PCM thing.

BEST SUGGESTION TO FIX IT: Someone said we could pay small $1k fee for key to unlock it. And voids warranty so whatever happens from there is on us - I like that! This way it could be tuned and only those who are knowledgeable and responsible would have an engine that works Makes sense.

As far as WK2 vs. WK1 performance they said they'd put $ on both being equal although the WK2 out stops and handle the WK1 according to them. All in all ID say for less $ you can get a WK1, mod it up to be faster in a line and on the twisty. Although you wont have the nice interior and some other doo dads. In reality a a WK1 SRT is a better overall value to me, but the WK2 is certainly no slouch. Waiting to see how much prices fall on these in the coming months/year
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I agree with Milous that this shouldve been a Jeep only chat. I think when we sent the questions and offered the chat on our forums....SRT accepted and then they realized they could include the other SRt models and kill 4 birds with one stone.
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I agree with Milous that this shouldve been a Jeep only chat. I think when we sent the questions and offered the chat on our forums....SRT accepted and then they realized they could include the other SRt models and kill 4 birds with one stone.

no pun- but seems to most of us, that this all theyve set out to do for the "jeep"SRT8.


i looked thru the log and didnt really find anything out that wasnt force-fed to us already a handful of times. i mean its still nice to have the chat but i knew it wouldnt be "Jeep SRT8 specific" as soon as i saw it on all the other SRT forums. immediately i thought.... hmmm this isnt for us, just think about how many SRT8 owners are out there that arent JEEP SRT8 owners.

outnumbered from the get-go. still nice to see, and still want to drive one and still want someone to depreciate it for me first

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Re-read the chat again this morning, along with what you all have posted as thoughts, to gather a second "next day" opinion. Must say, I am now much more disappointed in how this went, and the taste in my mouth with this whole ordeal (ordering, pricing, buying) is worse. I can't help but feel this whole attitude of "SRT Community" is a sham.
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