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murfman 06-12-2010 05:35 PM

Carbon Fiber Film
 
Anyone ever used M500film? I was looking for pricing on line for the 3M Di Noc and found this M500 film, it is actually designed for automotive applications and is a bit thinner than the DiNoc and is supposed to hold up better as well. I found it here, I ordered 5 feet of it today, and will let you know and see how it works out both inside and outside of my Jeep.

I ordered it here :Metro

They also have some nice film for headlights/taillights etc..

robpp 06-12-2010 06:24 PM

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DiNoc has a pretty good reputation and i think a 4 year guarantee outdoors.

but of course interested in cheaper options.....thanks Murf

murfman 06-12-2010 06:38 PM

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I'm not so much worried about cost, even using DiNoc it would be less than 200$ to do everything that I want to do (front and rear bumper inserts, upper and lower door trim)

rvtifer 06-13-2010 05:23 AM

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I tried 4-5 different films and have found none of them to be even close in the quality of the finish of the di-noc. Of course the di-noc is a high quality cast vinyl with V3 controltac but most (interior) car applications do not need that level of specifications, what sets it apart is that there is a texture where most others simply have a printed image of carbon fiber on it. They both can look great in pictures but in real life, without a texture the pattern disappears as soon as light hits it and it becomes something close to a glossy vinyl.

Having said that, there are a lot of new options out there and Id love to hear your impressions and maybe get a couple close up pictures.

For the external application you might want to use a 3M 94 primer which is an adhesion promoter but also an edge sealer which might be useful for the front bumper section which will be exposed .

I suppose this is the upper door trim but what exactly do you mean by lower door trim ?




http://lh5.ggpht.com/_e2FAXnPuyI8/Sy.../Intro%206.jpg

murfman 06-13-2010 07:34 AM

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I was referring to the chrome belt molding on the outside. But, DAMN that door panel looks sweet. I went to that site to get pricing on the DiNoc, and the sales guy there recommended the M500 for exterior trim on an automotive application. It is not often someone tries to sell you the cheaper stuff! Anyway I ordered some and will let you know how it works out.

rvtifer 06-13-2010 08:22 AM

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Looking forward to your impressions. For the trim, understood ... like these then

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_e2FAXnPuyI8/TB...0tyrim%201.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_e2FAXnPuyI8/TB...0tyrim%202.jpg

Supraman93 06-13-2010 09:41 AM

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I really like the way that upper inside door trim looks wrapped. Does this piece come off the door panel or do you just have to wrap and tuck it in the seam areas. I have a bunch of Neffy still and would like to try this.

rvtifer 06-13-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Supraman93 (Post 221430)
I really like the way that upper inside door trim looks wrapped. Does this piece come off the door panel or do you just have to wrap and tuck it in the seam areas. I have a bunch of Neffy still and would like to try this.

You will need to take it apart which is relatively easy.

First you need to take the door trim off. Follow this excellent guide.

The top section of the door is plastic welded to the rest of the door. The picture below is from the che build. Its an 08+ but very similar to the 05-07's. You can clearly see the top section in white as well as the 15 or so plastic welds in grey.

Separate the two parts part, do your thing and put it back together.

I did my front and rear at different times and used different approach to detach them. The best way I found was to use a pair a pliers to squeeze each of the welds tight,making them sort of T shaped and then use a dremel to cut both sides of the T. You need to force the part out a bit but when you are finished it "clicks" back in and makes it that more stable before you glue back the welds.

Its really not that difficult. Good luck.


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_e2FAXnPuyI8/TB...0door%2008.jpg

Here is one with the neffy ... ho much of it do you have left ?

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_e2FAXnPuyI8/TB...ll%20neffy.JPG

Supraman93 06-13-2010 11:34 AM

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Thanks for the info. What did you use to glue back the welds? I should have enough Neffy to do the top door trim pieces being that I only did the front console section were the AC controls, around the shifter and the two front window switches.

murfman 06-13-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rvtifer (Post 221439)

On the A pillar, did you just trim the Neffy wrap around the grab handle? If so how is the edge holding up. I really like the gloss black handle. I would really like to do the dash pad as well, painting the defroster vents, speaker grilles, and AC vents gloss black as well. I just worry about the edges around the ac vents, and grab handles on the A pillars, as there is no way to "Tuck" the wrap around the panel. IMHO the upper dash panel is an eyesore on the SRT grand, covering it with the Neffywrap , and doing the Nav bezel and Instrument cluster bezel in black leather with a nice stich along the front would finish it off nicely.

SoCalMoparWK 06-13-2010 03:49 PM

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sweet mods. Great Look

rvtifer 06-13-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Supraman93 (Post 221457)
Thanks for the info. What did you use to glue back the welds? I should have enough Neffy to do the top door trim pieces being that I only did the front console section were the AC controls, around the shifter and the two front window switches.

I tried a couple things from remelting pins with a butane lighter and used a hot glue gun but the proper way to do it is re-weld them with an epoxy such a plastic weld from kent Automotive for instance.


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