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attilahooper 07-01-2010 06:28 PM

trouble separating Ball Joint plus a vid of play - please help -
 
OK, I'm sore and pissed off. Spent the better part of the day pounding on the bolt holding the lower clevis.

Anyway, I have that busted Eibach front lowering spring I announced in my first thread.
http://www.jeepgarage.org/f5/busted-eibach-spring-wtf-10420.html
The ****ers finally sent it along. 2 weeks later :/

So it seems there is not enough spring pressure to release the upper BJ. Perhaps cause it's the 1-1/4 drop combined with a broken coil. I rapped and rapped on the flat of the spindle, no joy. What's next ? Pickle fork ??

Here's something I'm also concerned about. I'll call Eibach tomorrow but...

Look at the play in the upper BJ. I used a channel lock to squeeze it while it was jacked. These are their adjustable units.



This is more than 1/4", wtf ?!?!?

Edit: note Eibach adjustable BJ # 5.23410K

robpp 07-01-2010 08:03 PM

Re: trouble separating BJ plus a vid of play - please help -
 
go to napa and get one of these to remove the upper bj.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...lRT/Puller.jpg





oh i see its an eibach BJ as well just saw your edit.

I didnt know they made them for the jeep??? Are you sure they ft and were working correctly.

robpp 07-01-2010 08:09 PM

Re: trouble separating BJ plus a vid of play - please help -
 
necver mind the eibach comment. i see they DO have them for the Jeep. and you have the correct part.

attilahooper 07-01-2010 08:16 PM

Re: trouble separating BJ plus a vid of play - please help -
 
thx rob. yeah, got the eibach setup from kolak when they first came out. And thx for the tierod separator pic, I was thinking the same thing. Just got sidetracked by the play in the BJ. I think it's ok, have seen cutaway diagrams of upper BJs with a spring backing em up.

robpp 07-01-2010 08:18 PM

Re: trouble separating BJ plus a vid of play - please help -
 
cool i bought a set of 2 sizes of the pullers for like 30 at napa. it popped the factory one right out. i was skeered to whack it with the hammer LOL




still sux about the spring. im going to do my fronts springs saturday.... but i used the puller when I pulled the struts for the bilsteins a while ago.



was it just corrosion that rusted through ??? did eibach have anything to say

Scottina06 07-01-2010 08:36 PM

Re: trouble separating BJ plus a vid of play - please help -
 
thats a stress break in that coil to go along with a bad mixture of metal. probably had a little too much carbon or magnesium

attilahooper 07-01-2010 08:37 PM

Re: trouble separating BJ plus a vid of play - please help -
 
No corrosion imo. Only been to Canada two seasons with this setup. Suspension's been making noise for a good while, thought it was squeaky bushings, just got around to finding out why.

Eibach had no response to the detailed pic I sent. Most of the wrangling was getting my original invoice into them, the ****ers.

I'm betting this shit is made in China, like everything else these days.

edit: yep scott, intergranular most likely. Probably mixed-in too much melamine.

robpp 07-01-2010 08:41 PM

Re: trouble separating BJ plus a vid of play - please help -
 
they used less melamine since they were busy using TOO much of it in the baby formula and milk.


actually, i just bought eibach for a friends magnum and H&R for me.......shox.com

anyway, that guy, shox.com, told me eibach is no longer based in german ythat the owner moved most operations and distribution here. but prolly correct on where they are MADE....

attilahooper 07-02-2010 02:28 PM

Re: trouble separating Ball Joint plus a vid of play - please help -
 
Just got finished wrestling with the coil-over, omg. I have the battle scars to prove it. Pics coming later, I have to apply neosporin now, lol.

One thing I had to mention, there is no darn way you're gonna get the shock out without popping the upper balljoint. I read someone did it over on the srt8 forum, and I even messed myself up trying that routine, no way in hell. Just too easy to pop the BJ and be done with it.

BIG QUESTION HERE: That upper balljoint moves around like it is worn to shit. I'm really questioning it, because, ya know, tie rod ends and such are so much stiffer. You gotta really push on a new one to get it to move. Like the Moog stuff, good n sturdy.

Now I beg you all, watch the vid. Is that play normal ??? 1/4"+ axial play, no detectable radial play.

robpp 07-02-2010 02:31 PM

Re: trouble separating Ball Joint plus a vid of play - please help -
 
the play is ABBYNORMAL BRO.

either the Upper control arm is shot ort that ball joint.

i dod look at rockauto and they had 2 types of adjustable upper BJ for the WK. about 95 bux a piece :eek:

attilahooper 07-02-2010 02:40 PM

Re: trouble separating Ball Joint plus a vid of play - please help -
 
Bizzaro, right ?

The MOOG Part # K80604 is only $50 from rock auto. The adjustable Raybestos is $92. Hmmmm.
I heard tell that the eibach -1.5" doesn't necessarily need the adjustable upper balljoint. Combined with the gas bilsteins I don't think I would need so much adjustment...... wtfk ?

robpp 07-02-2010 02:54 PM

Re: trouble separating Ball Joint plus a vid of play - please help -
 
you dont need the adjustables. most are able to get an alignment without it.


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