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cbnbmore 09-12-2010 11:18 AM

Aftermarket radio install problems
 
I removed the panel to access the radio to determine the space afforded for installing an aftermarket radio in place of the media center 130 that is there now and I discovered a few obstacles.
It appears that the metal frame that sits behind the plastic mounting frame will indeed be quite easy to remove. The problem I'm encountering now is that the plastic mounting frame that secures the factory radio with four mounting screws has an opening that does not quite allow a double din NAV unit to pass through. It is wide enough but is a couple of mm too small top to bottom. The factory radio is almost an inch smaller at the back versus a normal DD sized radio. This will require custom work to either trim away some of the plastic support framing or to replace that entire section. By doing this it will also make it unlikely to reinstall the factory radio by simple means if desired at a later time. This is because the mounting holes for the factory radio are very close to the edge of the space the radio slides into. It looks like if you trim enough plastic away to slide a DD radio in that it will also take away the usability of the mounting holes.
I now notice crutchfield has the 2011 GC in it's database and indeed the aftermarket choices are very limited as to what fits. Mostly single din sized units and even these require custom mounting.
It seems it will not be as simple as acquiring a new mounting bracket from Metra or fabricating one to get a DD sized unit installed.
I'm sure most good installers will be able to figure a way to install an aftermarket DD unit but it will likely mean an unlikely return to factory like appearance should one desire to go back to the stock radio.
If anyone here has figured out an alternate way of getting a DD radio installed without dash surgery I'd love to know.

robpp 09-12-2010 11:29 AM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
i think you need to relax a bit and let the aftermarket catch up.

go ahead and be a groundbreaker if you wish but i think if you are a bit patient some solutions will be created.

dubwarren 09-12-2010 11:48 AM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
dash surgery on a new jeep.....whoa.

cbnbmore 09-12-2010 11:50 AM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robpp (Post 266962)
i think you need to relax a bit and let the aftermarket catch up.

go ahead and be a groundbreaker if you wish but i think if you are a bit patient some solutions will be created.

You're probably right but I'm a little upset that jeep has made their radio such a pain to customize now after so many years of being very installer friendly.
It is now very difficult to use a DD sized unit which is the standard NAV radio size. There will probably be a bracket made that will let one use a single Din size radio but to go DD will require much more work and will eliminate most DIY's from being able to do the job.

cbnbmore 09-12-2010 11:57 AM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubwarren (Post 266970)
dash surgery on a new jeep.....whoa.

Not surface work but support surgery. The surface opening is fine, in fact about a half inch of added filler is required on each side just as in prior years. The problem is the plastic frame that the radio attaches to. It's too small. This plastic frame looks to be part of the main support of the dash.

dubwarren 09-12-2010 12:51 PM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
ok, i feel better now. im slow sometimes.....took me like ten minutes to realize no one would do what i was thinking.

robpp 09-12-2010 02:48 PM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
not unless I had a spare dash to replace whatever I might mess up.

jeep is not the only company to have NON standard screens. The REC, the 05-07 NAV was BIGGER THAN DD. then the myGig in 2008 was DD IIRC.

cbnbmore 09-12-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robpp (Post 267059)
not unless I had a spare dash to replace whatever I might mess up.

jeep is not the only company to have NON standard screens. The REC, the 05-07 NAV was BIGGER THAN DD. then the myGig in 2008 was DD IIRC.

I wish it was bigger. That is much easier to deal with. A simple bracket with space fillers takes care of that. Having a smaller opening is a real pain as it involves modifying the support structures and likely making it a permanent modification.

GR33N D3M0N 09-12-2010 04:12 PM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
can u take a pic of what ur talking about?? because im confused....on the wk there was a metal piece that was pressing against the stock radio (1.5 din) and i just bent it up to put the DD in there...

nek121328 09-12-2010 05:28 PM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
Ask Crutchfield what they recommend for an upgrade

Djeazie 09-12-2010 05:35 PM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbnbmore (Post 266972)
You're probably right but I'm a little upset that jeep has made their radio such a pain to customize now after so many years of being very installer friendly.
It is now very difficult to use a DD sized unit which is the standard NAV radio size. There will probably be a bracket made that will let one use a single Din size radio but to go DD will require much more work and will eliminate most DIY's from being able to do the job.

Its not that bad really. I have installed a double din in my 2011. Yes you need to remove that cage in the back. And all you need to do is trim alittle of the top of the inner dash of. I used a Dremel tool and it worked great! Dont be scared just take your time and plan well.

cbnbmore 09-12-2010 06:01 PM

Re: Aftermarket radio install problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Djeazie (Post 267128)
Its not that bad really. I have installed a double din in my 2011. Yes you need to remove that cage in the back. And all you need to do is trim alittle of the top of the inner dash of. I used a Dremel tool and it worked great! Dont be scared just take your time and plan well.

That's encouraging. Now I have a thousand questions......So you trimmed just from the top. Did you have to cut into the screw holes any and how did you secure the head unit to the dash frame? Did you fabricate your own bracket?
I'll limit my questions to those for now but if you get the time I'd love to know all the details of your install. It might even be worthy of a stickey as I'm sure quite a few other forum members are pondering audio upgrades.


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