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08Hemi 07-15-2009 04:08 PM

STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
So I have some $$$ and want to get a stereo. I will retain the BA speakers and amp, along with the head-unit/Nav. I need some help with the exact parts to buy...I am in Santa Barbara and the shops around here are not very willing to help me out and are SUPER expensive to cover their overhead.

I know I need an amp kit; what gauge should I get? I want to get a mono-amp for a 10" sub, and have anywhere from 600-1000 watts. 4 gauge is what i am thinking as I did a 2 gauge for my old system (1200 watts) in my Dakota. I will also need an LOC - Please help me with this as my only familiarity is with aftermarket products. I want the best quality sound, $$$ is not an issue as I want quality bass. Please provide the best direct LOC for my application. I have a lot of RCA's, speaker wire, elec tape and wire-strippers. Please provide any little "hints/tips" re: install as my main expertise is in Home theater.

Now as for the sub/amp/box set-up; I want a 10" sub and I am up in the air on the box. I listen to a wide variety of music. I had a 15" with a 1200 watt amp and while it straight up bumped, its versatility was not there! Please give exact model#'s for your set-ups and tell me a little why you selected what you did...I want something with great versatility and the ability to hit when I want it to. I love Matt's custom box and that is the way I am leaning, but Kyle's set-up is simple and clean too!! There is a custom fiberglass set-up I just saw too...very nice

So please, help me out and help me spend my $$$ !!! I want to do this is 3 weeks, so my plan is to order everything by the end of next week!!!

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Matt 07-16-2009 10:07 AM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
LOC: http://www.amazon.com/PAC-TRUNKLOC-A.../dp/B0007VNKZ4

4-gauge amp kit (the top one): http://www.knukonceptz.com/productMa...lation%20Kits#

Sub 1: http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com/prod...&Product_Id=16

http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com/manu...20D4%20V.3.pdf

http://www.woofersetc.com/p5807/IDQ1...-Subwoofer.htm

Sub 2: http://soundsolutionsaudio.com/index...formation/icon

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...7B47%7DD2.html

Amp:
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...252d1000D.html

There are a ton of products out there, these are just some examples. I plan on picking up the SSA ICON 10 and the Sundown amp once I get a job. The reviews on all the products above are fantastic.

08Hemi 07-16-2009 11:03 AM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
I had a feeling you would chime in Matt...thank you! The pics from your build are the sole reason I am doing this!!! What does a guy have to do to join your JG 5.7L 2wd Squad???

Love those products you sent me...you do a lot of research don't you?? I do have a couple questions; will a 4-gauge kit be enough for that sundown amp mono @ 1000rms? Do I need to get a cap? I dont want my headlights to dim :) Also for that amp is there the ability to get a bass-knob? I am worried about the EQ for the stock stereo...I know it will take some time but will I be able to tweak the EQ properly with the LOC??? And again I am a little slow with this, does the LOC go behind my dash to the Head Unit of off of the amp in the rear? Thanks Matt, I am going to order the sundown amp and I am leaning towards the ICON sub...I think that is a very nice combo! So it looks like I am going to spend around $800 for the sundown, ICON sub, LOC, Amp kit (again, 4-gauge enough? Need cap?), Box...sound about right?

I am like a kid in a candy store looking at this stuff!!!

Matt 07-16-2009 12:30 PM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
I had a feeling you would chime in Matt...thank you! The pics from your build are the sole reason I am doing this!!! What does a guy have to do to join your JG 5.7L 2wd Squad???

:eek: WAIT! You have a 2wd 5.7...? You'd be the first one I have ever come across!!

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
Love those products you sent me...you do a lot of research don't you??

I did for almost two years. Did a shit load of reading, lol.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
I do have a couple questions; will a 4-gauge kit be enough for that sundown amp mono @ 1000rms?

It would be fine, but it can never hurt to go bigger. If you have the extra cash I say go 0 gauge. You never know if you'll want to add a second amp later down the road.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
Do I need to get a cap? I dont want my headlights to dim :)

Nope, caps are pretty much worthless (another thing I did some reading on). It's just another device that taxes your electrical system. If you experience problems I'd upgrade the "Big 3" - but I have 1,000 RMS on my stock electrical system and I have zero issues.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
Also for that amp is there the ability to get a bass-knob? I am worried about the EQ for the stock stereo

Yeah, I just looked and it says it comes with a bass knob.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
I know it will take some time but will I be able to tweak the EQ properly with the LOC???

You'll lose the fade/balance feature, but everything else should still be properly functional (i.e. "bass", "mid", "treb")

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
And again I am a little slow with this, does the LOC go behind my dash to the Head Unit of off of the amp in the rear?

The LOC will tap into your rear speaker wire, it would be easiest to access this at the output terminal of the factory amp (behind the driver side rear quarter panel).

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
Thanks Matt, I am going to order the sundown amp and I am leaning towards the ICON sub...I think that is a very nice combo!

That combo gets such high praise!!! From what I've read that sub is damn near the perfect sub woofer.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
So it looks like I am going to spend around $800 for the sundown, ICON sub, LOC, Amp kit (again, 4-gauge enough? Need cap?), Box...sound about right?

Yup, that sounds about right... shit gets expensive doesn't it, lol.

As for the enclosure... I think it was preferred by most in a sealed alignment, but I'll do some reading and see what some have experienced.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34103)
I am like a kid in a candy store looking at this stuff!!!

You and me both my friend. It can get very frustrating when selecting equipment because it's such a heavily (over) saturated market.

---------- Post added at 01:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:29 PM ----------

Whew, that was a lot of work, lol.

08Hemi 07-16-2009 12:36 PM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
WAIT we are the only two on JG with a 2wd Hemi??? So can I be member 2 of 2???

HAHA yeah seriously...thanks for the detail. +rep for you sir! Yeah I thought the market seemed like there was SO MUCH out there to choose from. So is there any sound quality issues with the LOC off the rear speaker output? I think I remember you telling me about one that connects to the back of the head unit that is a plug/play?? I remember it being over $100 if my memory serves me correctly...

Matt 07-16-2009 12:44 PM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34143)
WAIT we are the only two on JG with a 2wd Hemi??? So can I be member 2 of 2???

hell yeah, sig already changed! It's hard to believe right.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34143)
HAHA yeah seriously...thanks for the detail. +rep for you sir! Yeah I thought the market seemed like there was SO MUCH out there to choose from.

No problem at all! Yeah, there is sooo much too choose from.

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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 34143)
So is there any sound quality issues with the LOC off the rear speaker output? I think I remember you telling me about one that connects to the back of the head unit that is a plug/play?? I remember it being over $100 if my memory serves me correctly...

Nope, no sound quality issues if it's all connected correctly. Yeah, there is a plug-n-play harness, but as you said, it's over 100 bucks! It would make the install a lot easier, smoother though.

08Hemi 07-23-2009 10:59 AM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
Hey Matt I have been searching for the Chrysler plug-n-play harness but I cannot find one...could you point me in the right direction??

I am going to order the amp kit, sundown 1000 and icon 10d2 today :)

Matt 07-23-2009 11:14 AM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
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Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 37910)
Hey Matt I have been searching for the Chrysler plug-n-play harness but I cannot find one...could you point me in the right direction??

I am going to order the amp kit, sundown 1000 and icon 10d2 today :)

Ah, so jealous that you're going to get that, hehe. Should be bad ass!!

Here is the harness you will need:

http://www.pac-audio.com/productDeta...&CategoryID=28

Here's a guy selling his for $80

http://www.cherokeesrt8.com/forums/s...127#post433127

Here's an eBay search listing with a bunch

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trk...All-Categories

08Hemi 07-23-2009 12:23 PM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
Thanks Matt...AGAIN!!! You da man

So I see that it provides a 4-channel (two sets, front and rear) of RCA's; do I need two sets or will I use a y-adapter and funnel the two pairs into one pair and into the amp??

AND what size fuse will I need? 125A will be fine since it has 3X25 built-in??

This is a good deal for the combo, right?
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...1kd__10989.jpg Click to enlarge

SSA Icon 10D2 + Sundown SAZ-1000D Combo

RRP: Price: $539.00 SKU: Icon10D2 + SAZ-1000D combo Brand: SoundSolutionsAudio Weight: 37.00 LBS Rating: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...IcoRating0.gif () Availability: Allow one week build time for the sub woofer Shipping: Calculated at checkout Current Stock:

Matt 07-23-2009 01:18 PM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 08Hemi (Post 37944)
Thanks Matt...AGAIN!!! You da man

So I see that it provides a 4-channel (two sets, front and rear) of RCA's; do I need two sets or will I use a y-adapter and funnel the two pairs into one pair and into the amp??

AND what size fuse will I need? 125A will be fine since it has 3X25 built-in??

This is a good deal for the combo, right?
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...1kd__10989.jpg Click to enlarge

SSA Icon 10D2 + Sundown SAZ-1000D Combo

RRP: Price: $539.00 SKU: Icon10D2 + SAZ-1000D combo Brand: SoundSolutionsAudio Weight: 37.00 LBS Rating: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/s...IcoRating0.gif () Availability: Allow one week build time for the sub woofer Shipping: Calculated at checkout Current Stock:

You will use just the rear set of RCA's to connect to your SAZ-1000D.

125A is perfect for 4 gauge.

Yes, the combo price (IIRC) saves you 15 bucks compared to if you bought them separately.

08Hemi 07-25-2009 09:41 PM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
OK I could not pull the trigger at work, but I am ready now. Do I get the 1ohm or 2ohm dual voice coil? What will work best with the sundown amp?

08Hemi 08-04-2009 10:14 AM

Re: STEREO Install - Sub/Amp
 
ARE YOU BACK YET???? MATT, paging MATT!!!!

OK so I have the C2A-CHY3 and Amp kit...I need to know which one to buy...1 ohm DVC or 2ohm DVC??? What will work best with the Sundown? Based on my research I am leaning towards the 2 ohm DVC...please tell me so I can order this damn thang


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