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dsi jeep 11-27-2010 12:36 AM

I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough.
 
What do you think? Here is the video:
http://jalopnik.com/5697449/why-did-...nches-of-water

Dunecrawler 11-27-2010 12:48 AM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
Maybe a bit fast, but I understand how and why he did that. I also would not expect problems from a crossing like that, but in hindsight it should have been more controlled.
But then again, I am no expert. Does not rain here very often

dsi jeep 11-27-2010 01:09 AM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
I think he was going little too fast. But I have seen and done worst through water with WJ. Now after this video I will think twice when going through water!

Fireman310pt 11-27-2010 02:27 AM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
I've hit water a lot harder and faster in an older XJ ( and have been lucky not to hydrolock an engine), but it looks like it was a bit too fast for the stock setup. That vid is a good reminder that it's wise to err on the side of caution.

MSCA 11-27-2010 09:15 AM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
Sorry, but the guy who owns that Wrangler is an idiot. Pause the video at 23 seconds and take a minute to look at the freeze frame. You can make an argument that a Jeep shouldn't get damaged by driving through 10 inches of water (which in itself is debatable--that could have been more than 10 inches of water), but that guy somehow managed to make that water go well above his roofline. You can also clearly see a ton of water splashing up behind his grille. Posting his video will probably hurt him much more than help him. He's basically proving that his engine was destroyed by his own foolish actions.

KarlG 11-27-2010 10:24 AM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
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Originally Posted by MSCA (Post 307862)
Sorry, but the guy who owns that Wrangler is an idiot. Pause the video at 23 seconds and take a minute to look at the freeze frame. You can make an argument that a Jeep shouldn't get damaged by driving through 10 inches of water (which in itself is debatable--that could have been more than 10 inches of water), but that guy somehow managed to make that water go well above his roofline. You can also clearly see a ton of water splashing up behind his grille. Posting his video will probably hurt him much more than help him. He's basically proving that his engine was destroyed by his own foolish actions.

Here's a still from 0:23 to show the point MSCA is making.

jeep2011 11-27-2010 10:32 AM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
That was not fast at all. Wow that is poor design if that speed caused water to get into the intake. I have had 10 4x4's before and have taken then all through deeper water at faster speeds than that and never have sucked water into an intake. I am not sure where the intake is on the wranglers, but goes back to the fact that fender breathers have better protection then head on intakes (if the wranglers is in the same place as the new GC). Plus the spot in question on the video is only splashing minimal amounts of water in the grille and for only a split second.

If this indicates the abilities of Jeep now I am very disappointed. At the coast where most of us go 4wheeling you have to cross water at higher rates of speed otherwise you will sink in the sand and not make it out. I am glad I have $0 deductibles on my insurance if this happens to mine.

xmonger 11-27-2010 10:38 AM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
Th JK Wranglers seem to be more prone to the air intake taking in water than the TJs. That guy may be an idiot, but that water crossing was fairly mild. I've been deeper with my Jeeps but was I was very mindful of depth and speed at all times.

Anyway, Jeep has to stop with all the commercials showing water crossings. They look great and are probably effective in selling vehicles. However, people don't realize when they try to re-create the commercial and hydro-lock their engine, Chryco doesn't foot the bill.

Grn4Frk 11-27-2010 05:12 PM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
Seems lately Jeep cannot forge any water. a new wrangler hydro locked and a brand new 11 JGC hydro locked and Chrysler is not backing them up. They need to improve the design of the engine intakes and protect them from water.. I'm sure putting those in might cost $1 but will save a bunch of negative publicity about how a dodge stratus can go through more water than a Wrangler...

MSCA 11-27-2010 07:14 PM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
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Originally Posted by KarlG (Post 307883)
Here's a still from 0:23 to show the point MSCA is making.

That's a good shot, but you can actually pause the video at 0:23 seconds where the water is above the roof. The way the video was shot, a lot happens at the 23-second mark.

MSCA 11-27-2010 07:49 PM

Re: I know it is not WK2 but was the driver too tough or the Jeep wasn't tough enough
 
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Originally Posted by Grn4Frk (Post 308052)
Seems lately Jeep cannot forge any water. a new wrangler hydro locked and a brand new 11 JGC hydro locked and Chrysler is not backing them up. They need to improve the design of the engine intakes and protect them from water.. I'm sure putting those in might cost $1 but will save a bunch of negative publicity about how a dodge stratus can go through more water than a Wrangler...

If you search YouTube, you should be able to find a video of an Acura NSX driving a long way through water over it's hood. And it just keeps going all the way through. It's pretty amazing....

Found it... here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5euSjOBYQY

MSCA 11-27-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlG (Post 307883)
Here's a still from 0:23 to show the point MSCA is making.

Here's two more. First one shows just how high the water went and the second one shows the water being forced up behind the grille.


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