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grantb 02-09-2011 08:26 PM

2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
I have a 2004 WJ Limited -

Has anyone replaced a relay in order to fix hyper flashing on the turn signals?

if so please advise to the item number and where i can find one!

I understand you can install a resistor, but i would prefer to replace a single part which pulls right out and pops right in vs having to splice into my factory wires if we can avoid that.

Thanks guys.

grantb 02-10-2011 02:56 PM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
Booo to no response for an easy relay repacement :(

After contacting Tracy (where i got my LED's from) over at http://autolumination.com/ she does not have any relays to install to fix this issue (has relays for some jeeps but not my model).

So... She tells me this below, which I knew but was just trying to avoid.


> > So in that case - how many resistors would I likely need to buy from you if I put LEDs in 6 total bulbs in front and rear 4 total bulbs in rear> > I have 3 LED in each headlight (one on the corner for side turn signal, one for parking lights, and the other for low beams/turn signal).
> > I have not installed LED in the taillights as a result of the trouble I am having with the front signals, but I would like to.
How can I tell how many resistors I will need before purchasing?


HER REPLY -
Ok, the trick to knowing how many equalizers you need will depend on exactly why each is needed. Essentially, any led signal bulb will require one, that part is a given. The others may not, depends on the car and if there is a bulb out warning system linked to that specific bulb.
> If your vehicle is equipped with an electronic bulb-out warning system, then any led bulb used in a bulb position that is monitored by the electronic bulb-out warning system will likely trigger an electronic bulb-out warning.
> Not all bulbs are monitored by the electronic bulb-out warning systems. To test to see if a bulb is monitored by an electronic bulb-out system, you can remove the bulb to see if you get a warning,
> To stop the electronic bulb-out warnings, install a load equalizer across the + and - wires that feed each led bulb that is causing an electronic bulb-out warning. Use one 6 ohm at each led bulb that is 3/4" diameter and larger. Use one 15 ohm at each led bulb location that is smaller than 3/4" diameter.
> Alternatively, we do have festoon and #194 bulbs that contain special "canbus circuitry". The "canbus circuitry" is designed to eliminate most electronic bulb-out warnings in BMW. Mercedes, Audi. VW, Volvo and most others.
> Unfortunately, the circuitry required to do this for the larger tail light and turn signal bulbs is too bulky to fit inside those bulbs, so the load equalizers are still the only solution.
> More details on load equalizers can be found at:
> http://autolumination.com/equalizers.htm
> So essentially, check and see if the bulb is part of the bulb out system, and if so it will need a load equalizer. Most cars only need them for the signals but the best thing to do is to check.
>And installing load equalizers on the signal bulb circuits will correct the hyper flashing.

Chuck 02-10-2011 03:34 PM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
Sorry I missed your post, but if your using LEDs you'll need to wire in resistors in order to avoid the hyperflashing. I honestly haven't seen any other alternatives.

I believe I used these for my application (only on the main signal), my outside blinker didn't need a resistor:

http://www.v-leds.com/BlinkerWarning...83296-1-2.html

I used Frankie's writeup (even though his is a WK) to determine which wires needed splicing.

grantb 02-10-2011 04:12 PM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
Thanks for your reply Chuck,

not sure of the writeup that frankie made - but I know where the search button is so I will try to find it. (FOUND FRANKIE - http://www.jeepgarage.org/showthread...t=turn+signals )

But to clarify you installed the resistor on the Front turn signal (not the bulb on the very corner) which in my case is the bulb to the FAR RIGHT (of the 3 total)

http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/972/headfr.th.jpg

Did this also resolve hyper flashing LED's in the taillights?

Thanks for your response.

TJXJWJ 02-11-2011 10:48 AM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
It did for me...I had to install one at each corner. One load resister per turn signal bulb (minus any of the tiny ones)

grantb 02-11-2011 05:57 PM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
What size resistor did you use - if you recall?

TJXJWJ 02-11-2011 08:32 PM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
RL-650 Tail Light Load Resistor

6 Ohm, 50 Watt resistors can be connected across the turn signal bulbs to simulate the load of a regular filament bulb (2 Amp load). Measuers 1.96"L x .64"W x .60"H. Leads are 12 inches long.

I've gotten all my LEDS for my last few rides from superbrightleds.com. I've literally bought dozens of bulbs from them and probably 10-12 of these resistors. Great quality stuff..but I'm sure whoever you're buying your stuff from has these same resistors.

black_wj 02-12-2011 01:24 AM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
radio shack sells em too for 2.50 a piece

grantb 02-13-2011 12:18 AM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
Cool.

Atleast i know what i need to do in the event i want it fixed.

However based on my WJ parts manual the COMBINATION FLASHER seems it could be replaced to solve this issue. While I have been unsuccessful in location any manufacture that currently sells one - I am not reaching out to a few companies who will custom make one for me...

the kicker there is that I have to purchase a quanity of 200 (and i am still waiting for a price, most relay's sell for 12-13 dollars - easy math if it was 10 dollars X200 = $2,000). Well I am not going to pay 2k for one relay. I am trying to coordinate with a few LED vendors who might want to purchase the 200 lot and I will purchase at least one from them possibly pay a premium price.

Just seems like a better solution if I can figure out the logistics of getting someone to make one, and then getting someone else to pay for it :)

HAHAHA...

GiggityGiggity 02-13-2011 09:58 AM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
this is plug and play for my C5, not sure if it can be modded at all to fit a WJ but this something you could look into as a potential option, not sure it would work but as an fyi...

http://www.corvette-enhancements.com/c5_flasher_fix.php

grantb 02-13-2011 09:30 PM

Re: 2004- LED Turnsignals and a replacement relay to fix hyperflashing?
 
Well we are making progress.

I got a company who makes them to email me back and they said they will talk with engineering about the possibility of this - since they are already manufacturing a WJ relay it would only be a matter of creating a new PCB board. We will see! I will keep you guys updated.


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