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Dougcjohn 03-05-2011 10:53 AM

Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
Anyone swapping the OEM tires out for a better tread? I'm still empty seated waiting for arrival, but my virtual WK2 is getting nicely modified!

What tires are preferred for All Season Road that still provides a workable trail tire? Are there favorites for 20" and 18" wheels?

RageOfFury 03-05-2011 10:57 AM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
Had my dealer change the GY Fortera HL for GY Wrangler SilentArmor. This was part of the purchase deal.

The Fortera's are fine for highway/city use, but they aren't suited for snow/ice or off-road surfaces.

moosehead 03-05-2011 11:29 AM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
DCJ, what are your primary needs? Mostly highway dry and wet pavement? Snow? When you mention trail, is is light/moderate/technical and how often? You running 18" or 20" or plan to go two sets winter/summer?

If you're primarily wet and dry pavement with light snow and light offroad, I'd say stock is fine.

If you want better snow and moderate trail an AT tire can run year round with great pavement manners ie: Michelin LX/MS2 or Firestone Destination AT.

You'll need to check 18" or 20" options as well.

Check out Tire Rack survey ratings by category - very good review by characteristic. Also check out the tire/wheel subforum on top of WK2 forum, and there's tons of great tire and rubber threads in JG.

Dougcjohn 03-05-2011 12:14 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moosehead (Post 369624)
DCJ, what are your primary needs? Mostly highway dry and wet pavement? Snow? When you mention trail, is is light/moderate/technical and how often? You running 18" or 20" or plan to go two sets winter/summer?

If you're primarily wet and dry pavement with light snow and light offroad, I'd say stock is fine.

If you want better snow and moderate trail an AT tire can run year round with great pavement manners ie: Michelin LX/MS2 or Firestone Destination AT.

You'll need to check 18" or 20" options as well.

Check out Tire Rack survey ratings by category - very good review by characteristic. Also check out the tire/wheel subforum on top of WK2 forum, and there's tons of great tire and rubber threads in JG.

Moosehead, thanks for the suggestions!
I'll be on 20" and primarily hard surface and highway speeds, and off road level would be to enjoy moderate exploring. Would like to be able to handle a challenging amateur trail and climbs, but not technical. 2nd use is to get way off the road to reach great photo locations.

Live in Iowa, so normally ample snow falls, rains, etc. Travel both business & pleasure throughout USA w more planned in WK2 for Off road fun!

Haven't had a Jeep since 70's with my lifted CJ5 304. It was rolled & banged up several times in the dirt & rocks. I have no intention to take a WK2 anywhere close to that level!

Prob next yr I'd get 18" w more aggressive tread if the 20's don't hit the mark for Winter. I've checked out TireRack and was looking for comments between some of the brands or models.

moosehead 03-05-2011 01:42 PM

DCJ, sounds like you might want an 18" setup with AT's which I'd categorize as being all rounders more than capable of handling your desired and varied terrain, even year round if you so choose. Note most modern AT's have great pavement manners, both traction and reasonable/minimal road noise.

I'd only suggest sticking with the 20's and all seasons if trail use were limited to forest service and country roads as those beautiful rims could take a beating with lesser sidewall cush. The stock rubber could even "get by" in moderate snowan though not ideal.

I got sucked into both setups as the 20's are too nice to give up, but needed better snow and trail setup on the 18's. If you have the storage, the cost benefit is good with two sets. YMMV.

Breitling65 03-05-2011 03:06 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
DES Moines? For this place I would get two sets of tires, nothing will beat winter tires while winter. Use ANY other tires you like including stock for spring/summer/fall time driving until temperature fall below 50F. You could get second set of used rims on ebay for winter, same bolts pattern as older GC. Personally that is what I do with all my cars and just changed my winters and placed them back to the basement until next cold season :)

Dougcjohn 03-06-2011 12:02 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
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Originally Posted by Breitling65 (Post 369710)
DES Moines? For this place I would get two sets of tires, nothing will beat winter tires while winter. Use ANY other tires you like including stock for spring/summer/fall time driving until temperature fall below 50F. You could get second set of used rims on ebay for winter, same bolts pattern as older GC. Personally that is what I do with all my cars and just changed my winters and placed them back to the basement until next cold season :)

Yep, Des Moines! Are we neighbors... or have you passed through during a Winter storm? This Winter was very mild, I think the Coasts got the bulk of our storms this year!

I am thinking of getting the BS Blizzak DM-V1... often find good comments on them. Warmer Weather the Yoko Parada SpecX seem to be rated good. Never had Yoko tires so I'm undecided... but will use OEM's before replaced.

Dougcjohn 03-06-2011 12:10 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moosehead (Post 369687)
DCJ, sounds like you might want an 18" setup with AT's which I'd categorize as being all rounders more than capable of handling your desired and varied terrain, even year round if you so choose. Note most modern AT's have great pavement manners, both traction and reasonable/minimal road noise.

Moosehead, can 17" be used on the WK2 or are the calipers to large?
In other threads, noticed some discussion on 275/45 or 285's on the 20". That would allow mild deflate if needed... but would think a gear change setup would be needed too. Any experimenting with these larger tires on 20"?

Breitling65 03-06-2011 12:11 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougcjohn (Post 370107)
Yep, Des Moines! Are we neighbors... or have you passed through during a Winter storm? This Winter was very mild, I think the Coasts got the bulk of our storms this year!

I am thinking of getting the BS Blizzak DM-V1... often find good comments on them. Warmer Weather the Yoko Parada SpecX seem to be rated good. Never had Yoko tires so I'm undecided... but will use OEM's before replaced.

Blizzak's are great for winters, otherwise use anything. Stock tires are ok for non-winter driving too. It is truck not sports or racing car, doesn't require summer tires for extreme performance while cornering for example.

mjw930 03-06-2011 02:26 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
I'll be interested to see if threads like this take a different track. I'm hoping that I'm not the only one that wants better on road performance than the Fortenza's can muster and could care less about serious off road or snow. Of course there's very little available in our 20" size that even pretends to be a performance tire so I'm probably tilting at windmills.

nek121328 03-06-2011 03:34 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
Not impressed with the Blizzak's in several inches of wet snow or 6+" of powder snow.

moosehead 03-06-2011 04:40 PM

Re: Tires WK2 - OEM Good or Swapping to better?
 
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Originally Posted by mjw930 (Post 370191)
I'll be interested to see if threads like this take a different track. I'm hoping that I'm not the only one that wants better on road performance than the Fortenza's can muster and could care less about serious off road or snow. Of course there's very little available in our 20" size that even pretends to be a performance tire so I'm probably tilting at windmills.


The SRT8 or Street Jeep crew will rock higher performance tires, though they tend to wear down fast given the vehicle weight and slightly softer compounds, especially under spirited driving. Many run the 22's such as below. I went through Pirelli's in 18k miles or less in a prior Touareg.

http://www.blackopsautoworks.com/pag...Iit=285&Ict=17

I'll try to swap out my Fortera's this spring but if it costs to much to swap out, will likely just wear 'em out in a season or two.


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