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Seminole-3 04-19-2011 11:29 PM

Where do I start?
 
I have been wanting to do some paint correction for a while now but have been waiting until better weather. Now that it is here, the itch has gotten stronger and I am ready to clean up all the paint of my Jeep.

I understand the basics of paint correction through reading the endless write-ups and such but I have never jumped into anything further than washing, claying, and basic waxes. I would like to see if there are any options I have without getting into electric buffers. I don't have a problem with them but obviously if it's not needed, then I'd rather not buy it. I'm not looking for an award winning finish but I feel a solid correction will go a long way.

Here are the best pictures I could get given my lack of camera and correct lighting.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5263/...75bbd43c_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/...ff98817e_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/...ab0db750_b.jpg

So, if possible, what can I do without a electric buffer? I tried Meguiars ultimate compound in some areas, and it looked like it helped with some of the lighter scratches but didn't get me to where I wanted.

If I do need to go with the electric buffer, I know which one and what polishes and compounds I would like to use, but I am confused on which pads should be used with what.

Thanks for any help! :thumbsup:

Scottina06 04-19-2011 11:39 PM

Re: Where do I start?
 
get a porter cable da polisher...they are invaluable

Seminole-3 04-19-2011 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottina06 (Post 399432)
get a porter cable da polisher...they are invaluable

Yea that was the one I would purchase if I had to. My only worry is how forgiving they are towards the paint. I'd hate to get into it only to realize that I made the situation worse than when I started.

robpp 04-20-2011 12:07 AM

Re: Where do I start?
 
then buy the new meguiars microfiber pads and correction kit. they claim its ALMOAST foolproof with the PC.

TJXJWJ 04-20-2011 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Seminole-3 (Post 399440)
Yea that was the one I would purchase if I had to. My only worry is how forgiving they are towards the paint. I'd hate to get into it only to realize that I made the situation worse than when I started.

You're not going to mess anything up. The DA is just that...dual action...not a rotary. With a rotary, you can burn the paint off very quickly, especially around edges.

I've had EXCELLENT results with that Porter Cable, Meguiars Ultimate Compound, Ultimate Polish, NXT, and Meg's Yellow Wax. I had slightly less of an issue than you do and it took me a day, but it was totally worth it. I used Lake County foam pads. Do not fear the DA buffers. Fear the rotary buffers.:thumbsup:

Getting what you have corrected by hand is a tall order...I've never been able to get that level of correction without a machine. Like Scott said...they are invalueable. I went from a rotary to a DA.

Seminole-3 04-20-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TJXJWJ (Post 399532)
You're not going to mess anything up. The DA is just that...dual action...not a rotary. With a rotary, you can burn the paint off very quickly, especially around edges.

I've had EXCELLENT results with that Porter Cable, Meguiars Ultimate Compound, Ultimate Polish, NXT, and Meg's Yellow Wax. I had slightly less of an issue than you do and it took me a day, but it was totally worth it. I used Lake County foam pads. Do not fear the DA buffers. Fear the rotary buffers.:thumbsup:

Getting what you have corrected by hand is a tall order...I've never been able to get that level of correction without a machine. Like Scott said...they are invalueable. I went from a rotary to a DA.


Thanks for the info! Very helpful.

I was figured I would need to get the porter cable and save my hands the pain of trying to do it without.

Where's the best place to buy the Porter Cable? I have been all through detailediamge's website and their price seems decent, but did know if someone had it for cheaper anywhere.

TJXJWJ 04-20-2011 10:20 AM

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Well, you can always just punch the model number into Google and shop around, but DI's price is competitive and you get a discount for being a JG member. I bought mine from them...give back a little for all the incredibly detailed articles and info the provide this forum. The only thing that sux is that you don't get to touch/feel and you have to wait. No instant gratification like going to the store and getting one.

Seminole-3 04-20-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TJXJWJ (Post 399686)
Well, you can always just punch the model number into Google and shop around, but DI's price is competitive and you get a discount for being a JG member. I bought mine from them...give back a little for all the incredibly detailed articles and info the provide this forum. The only thing that sux is that you don't get to touch/feel and you have to wait. No instant gratification like going to the store and getting one.

That is true with the write-ups and such. I will just get from detailedimage then.

As far as pressure with using the PC, I know people say medium, light, etc but can someone compare that to something? Like use the same amount of pressure you would use for squeezing a lemon. I just pulled that out of my ass but you know what I mean.

TJXJWJ 04-20-2011 08:14 PM

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Somewhere on either here, DI's site, or Meguiar's site, they actually tell you how many pounds of pressure...I don't know how much I believe all that. Personally, each panel and each issue and each pad and each product would require different pressure. A less agressive pad on a deeper scratch would require more time or more pressure.
I don't use the side handle on mine...one hand on the handle, on hand on the back of the head. It makes it easier to "steer" and apply pressure if needed. Sorry I can't give a more scientific answer.

Seminole-3 04-20-2011 08:21 PM

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That's cool. I have a general knowledge of how much pressure would be needed. Just wanted to see if anyone had any more specific information. I'll check those sites out.

Thanks again for the help!

DetailedImage.com 04-23-2011 06:36 PM

Re: Where do I start?
 
I'd suggest checking out our detailing guide for some more basic information and step by step instructions for each step. As for removing those swirls a buffer with quality polishes and pads should be able to buff out the majority of those imperfections. This is an excellent combination all in one convenient kit - DI Packages Porter Cable 7424 XP, Meguiar's Polish and Hydro Pads. Let me know if you have any other questions I'd be happy to help!

Greg @ DI

Seminole-3 04-24-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DetailedImage.com (Post 401886)
I'd suggest checking out our detailing guide for some more basic information and step by step instructions for each step. As for removing those swirls a buffer with quality polishes and pads should be able to buff out the majority of those imperfections. This is an excellent combination all in one convenient kit - DI Packages Porter Cable 7424 XP, Meguiar's Polish and Hydro Pads. Let me know if you have any other questions I'd be happy to help!

Greg @ DI

Thanks Greg!

One more question. I see that the kit only comes with two pads of each kind. If I were to be doing my whole jeep, approximately how many pads of each would I need? I heard that you want a new pad every panel or so.


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